Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/She Is Miley Cyrus


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep, no one except nom disagreeing. While the subject has not been released yet, sources satisfying its notability have been presented (WP:GNG). (non-admin closure) Rollidan (talk) 21:23, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

She Is Miley Cyrus

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Although Miley said that she would release two more EPs and then the album, she hasn't followed through on the plan and she heavily implied that they've been scrapped in an interview. It's unlikely that the remaining EPs and the album will be released, so it violates WP:CRYSTAL to include them. Fan4Life (talk) 14:58, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Fan4Life (talk) 14:58, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Fan4Life (talk) 14:58, 25 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep per the WP:GNG. There’s plenty if coverage here. Unreleased albums are not inherently non-notable, and it isn’t automatically CRYSTAL either - much of the content isn’t speculative, it’s sources commentary from reliable sources. There’s plenty of coverage here. It seems more speculative to say it’s cancelled, and even if it is, it’s probablt make more sense to merge this content than just delete it. Sergecross73   msg me  15:07, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep - per Sergecross73, countless sources and good quality relevant content present here. This is the article for her seventh album, and can be updated to reflect any changes in her release plans. See Jesus Is King, which was originally about a completely different project but has still been retained despite a new tracklist, name and artwork.—NØ 15:23, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - all the sources in the article are from July or earlier, and since then Miley hasn't followed through on the release plan for She Is Here and has heavily implied that the remaining EPs have been scrapped. Having an article for her seventh studio album when nothing about it is certain violates WP:CRYSTAL, what has happened with other articles is irrelevant as per WP:OTHERSTUFF. Fan4Life (talk) 15:41, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It's not CRYSTAL because sources confirming the existence of the album exist in plenty, your assumption that she is scrapping the album is. And in case it was unclear, the Kanye West album was only cited as a recent example so you can grasp this basic concept; since the nomination statement shows that you don’t understand it. It is not the basis for my keep vote.—NØ 16:14, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * This is an incorrect application of CRYSTAL. It’d be a violation if we as editors were speculating about the album. That’s different from accurately adding content according to reliable sources. This article is an example of the latter. Again, if anything, ironically, drawing conclusions on what has been “heavily implied” would be more of a CRYSTAL violation than anything. We go by what sources say, not what we think is implied. Sergecross73   msg me  17:12, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Per WP:CRYSTAL, future events should only be included if they're certain to happen. It's not at all certain that the remaining EPs and the album will be released. Fan4Life (talk) 19:32, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Under that sort of warped interpretation of CRYSTAL, it’d be impossible to have any future class album or song articles ever, because nothing is ever guaranteed to happen in the future. It’s rather concerning that you seem to think your personal interpretation of a single interview should somehow cancel out a ton of sourced third party commentary and the WP:GNG. That’s not how it works at all... Sergecross73   msg me  02:16, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:FUTUREALBUM, which allows documenting unreleased material if it has "significant independent coverage in reliable sources." Given all the sources, it does seem to have enough coverage to meet the high standard for talking about unreleased information. Vahurzpu (talk) 02:50, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above. It has not been fully established whether or not the album has been canceled. From the interview, it seems more likely that she is just going back to the studio to record music that feels more relevant to her now. Either way, even if the album is canceled, there is enough coverage for an independent article about it. Aoba47 (talk) 02:52, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - maybe we could keep the album page but remove She Is Here and She Is Everything from Miley Cyrus discography and chronology as the interview basically confirms that the remaining EPs aren't going to be released, especially considering that She Is Here was supposed to be released in summer and there's still no sign of it. Fan4Life (talk) 14:11, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I recommend that you stop making/proposing changes like this until you have actual confirmation of these cancellations. Your changes are the closer to violating CRYSTAL/OR than anything else. Sergecross73   msg me  17:28, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


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