Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sheikh Muhammad Nura Khalid


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The result was   No Consensus (Non-Admin Closure) (WP:NPASR). Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 20:40, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Sheikh Muhammad Nura Khalid

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Looks promotional and with this name you cannot find more than 6 results outside en.wiki.  Occult Zone  (Talk • Contributions • Log) 22:43, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 *  Speedy Keep - The four RS in the article plus this one which I found without much trouble, seems to meet the Notability requirement, particularly considering he is a Nigerian cleric without much international footprint. All of the articles are independent and even talk about different events/subjects. There is no question he is notable in Nigeria per WP:GNG. . For instance he was part of a panel on women and violence free elections in Nigeria Transcripts of his comments there and at Islamic Movement (Nigeria) might be useful to expand the article if someone can get them. This is from about five minutes of searching.

Jbh (talk) 23:55, 12 April 2015 (UTC)  Struck 'Speedy'. Nothing speedy about this one. J bh Talk  21:11, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
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 * Weak keep - Chief imam of an apparently major mosque in Nigeria's capital - while this in itself does not guarantee notability, it still somewhat suggests that an apparent lack of sources may be a problem of WP:BIAS. In this case, I rather wonder whether the nominator only looked for sources using the full article title - which would have been problematic in at least two ways here, firstly because "Sheikh" is an honorific rather than part of the subject's name and is frequently either replace by another honorific ("Imam", for instance) or omitted altogether, and secondly because Muhammed is such a common name in many Muslim societies that it is often omitted when referring to a person. In this case, it also turns out that a number of sources refer to him as Nuru Khalid rather than Nura Khalid - these , for instance. Reliable sources are not quite as plentiful as I would like, but this often seems to be the case even with major Muslim religious figures, at least outside Europe and North America. PWilkinson (talk) 22:18, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 18:46, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. The editors above have struggled to find sources, but they appear to be unsuitable passing mentions. Pax 21:55, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment It seems that the Nigeria Express/Nigeria Observer articles have gone offline. They were up when I reviewed the article. Unemployment, major cause of insecurity in Nigeria - Cleric, Muslim Cleric Urges Peaceful Co-Existence In Nigeria , and "Anti Gay Legislation: Cleric Commends Jonathan are all specifically about the subject of the article while the other five have comments or passing mentions. Again, this is quite a bit of coverage in international press for a Nigerian cleric. That his opinion is considered worth noting on many subjects, ranging from Gay Rights to Terrorism to Election Reform piques my interest as an editor. When that is combined with how scarce coverage is in Nigeria and the more in depth local coverage (which may not be available online now, but there is no requirement for that) there is a strong indication he is notable in Nigeria which is, after all, all that is required in GNG and in light of BIAS. Jbh (talk) 22:57, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * At the two refs at your above keep vote, you had entered a double "http" at the beginning of the URLs, I have fixed it, the articles are accessable now. Kraxler (talk) 00:27, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:12, 30 April 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Delete The article currently includes sources which are passing mentions of this person in other contexts. Without establishing WP:BIO or WP:GNG the article fails WP:N.  Blue Rasberry   (talk)  20:50, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Monty  845  18:16, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
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