Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shelby Tracy Tom


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The result was keep. While a rename of the article to Murder of Shelby Tracy Town did not gain consensus yet in this discussion, it should be considered. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:36, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Shelby Tracy Tom

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Delete. As sad as this story is, murder is unfortunately far too common in this world for Wikipedia to viably maintain an article about every murder that occurs -- but I'm just not seeing particularly strong evidence that this one clears the "more notable than the norm" bar in any significant way. There are just five references here, all exclusively local media published in her own hometown -- but that many local references could always be provided about every murder. And counting the number of footnotes linking to each citation, the most relied-upon source here is a Blogspot blog -- an unreliable source that can never be used in a Wikipedia article -- while the second most relied-upon source is a biweekly community newspaper of the type that's acceptable for supplementary sourcing of additional facts after GNG has already been met by stronger sources, but cannot be a carrier of GNG. There's really only one source here that counts toward a GNG pass, in fact -- and even it's a "six years after the fact" blurb that's much more about the killer than the victim. Furthermore, this article seems to exist partly to mount an argument against the court's finding that the murder wasn't a hate crime -- note, frex, that despite the court having ruled otherwise, the article is filed in -- but Wikipedia does not exist to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS or to relitigate murder trials in the court of public opinion: if a court of law decides that it wasn't a hate crime, then it's not our role to express an editorial opinion about whether they were right or wrong about that. There's just not enough here, on either substance or sourcing, to deem this more notable than most of the thousands upon thousands of other murders that took place in 2003 without getting Wikipedia articles. Bearcat (talk) 21:59, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep Have a look at some of these sources (Vice News)  (Huffington Post)   (Business Insider)  (Daily Dot). She was also heavily discussed in the book Children with Gender Identity Disorder: A Clinical, Ethical, and Legal Analysis By Simona Giordano. Passes WP:GNG. Thanks, JohnTombs48 (talk) 06:47, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep, but rename to Murder of Shelby Tracy Tom. The case itself is widely discussed with enough sources to have an independant article. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 14:54, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, passes GNG as shown by JohnTombs48. Rab V (talk) 03:28, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - passes GNG. and Otherstuffexists is not a reason for deletion.BabbaQ (talk) 12:02, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep but rename to Murder of Shelby Tracy Tom, as the event itself is what's notable. I recommend keeping due to the ensuing controversy around the crime classification. The coverage in Children with Gender Identity Disorder is also compelling. Tone down the WP:MEMORIAL aspects of it though, and remove the "Hate crime" category. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:10, 5 November 2016 (UTC)


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