Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sher Afzal Marwat (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Meets notability and coverage guidelines. Closing per consensus. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 04:36, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Sher Afzal Marwat
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While this individual gained transient prominence through a televised altercation, his overall notability remains questionable. Primarily identified as a legal practitioner associated with political figures, he finds himself amidst a vast sea of legal professionals in Pakistan. The creation of dedicated articles for every lawyer navigating the political landscape would be an imprudent endeavor. Furthermore, his limited achievements in the political arena, lacking victory in any national or provincial elections, and the absence of a judicial role at the national or provincial level contribute to the deficiency of substantial notability as outlined by Wikipedia's specific guidelines, particularly WP:POLITICIAN and WP:JUDGE. Sheriff &#124; ☎ 911 &#124; 14:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Politicians, Law,  and Pakistan. Sheriff</b> &#124; <b style="color: black;">☎ 911</b> &#124; 14:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep NPOL/JUDGE are *inclusionary* criteria, not satisfying those criteria are not grounds for deletion. There's no suggestion anywhere that lawyers by themselves enjoy notability, but it's common sense that the personal lawyers to national leaders who face investigations will be notable: Thierry Herzog, Pablo Rodríguez Grez, Michael Cohen, Herbert W. Kalmbach, David E. Kendall.  Marwat has received sustained coverage in reliable sources (eg BBC Urdu, Dawn, News International), with his arrest and detention having knock on effects in the coming general election. Satisfies the GNG/BIO. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 23:36, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * With this in depth profile in BBC Urdu there's no doubt that WP:GNG/WP:BIO are satisfied. I've also linked the English article to the Urdu version (where further sourcing is available). Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 00:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: Although he is a senior vice-president of a political party and is also contesting elections, he is of no significance except as a lawyer for the national leader. Fails to satisfy WP:BASIC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.Ashraf333 (talk • contribs) 11:48, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Goldsztajn. WP:TROUT the nominator for using WP:LLM to generate a robotic rationale to this article. This shows that they didn't do a WP:BEFORE. The closing admin should take this into account. As Goldsztajn already, this article from BBC Urdu is just about him and is very in-depth meeting WP:SIGCOV. We can use WP:BASIC to stitch multiple sources to satisfy multiple sources requirement. 59.103.106.158 (talk) 22:52, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * KEEP The article meets WP:GNG, especially after additional sources shown above...Ngrewal1 (talk) 19:00, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * KEEP He has now good news coverage. Not only in Pakistan but also abroad.--Ameen Akbar (talk) 21:29, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep The subject is a quite notable person. Nominator believes there's no need of a dedicated page for every lawyer coming to politics but the lawyer under discussion came into politics at a crucial time in the country's politics and rose to the rank of Senior Vice President of Pakistan's most popular party.
 * Also nominator should have waited for some time before renominating the article at once as Renominations in such a manner may be considered disruption. WP:DELAFD Muneebll (talk) 20:37, 26 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines, lacks significant achievements in politics or judiciary WP:NBIO, WP:BLP. War Wounded (talk) 18:14, 28 January 2024 (UTC)


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