Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sheraton Doha Resort & Convention Hotel


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The result was delete.  No new sources provided and old sources debunked. lifebaka++ 18:11, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Sheraton Doha Resort &amp; Convention Hotel

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I need to prefix this nomination by acknowledging that a fine effort was made to salvage this article, which was up for Speedy Delete earlier today. Alas, I am sorry to say the article at this point in time (1.15pm ET on 30 July) fails WP:CORP and WP:RS. Don’t be misled by the quantity of the references – spend a few minutes reviewing their quality. Three sources cited in the article's References section (Peninsula On-line, Gulf Times and AME Info) appear to have rerun the Sheraton’s press releases verbatim – read the "articles" carefully, then see other hotel-related articles in these online sources. You can see they are just reposting press releases and they have no original reporting in regard to their hotel news. As for the references cited in the New York Times and Socialist Worker, in both cases the hotel is barely mentioned in passing as being the location of a meeting. As per WP:CORP: "An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Trivial or incidental coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not sufficient to establish notability." Ecoleetage (talk) 17:16, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. AME Info has indeed run the hotel's press releases verbatim. Gulf Times and the Peninsula newspaper's articles appear to have been written by newspaper staff, rather than being press releases, so I think they are acceptable as references. I think the World Trade Organization's Doha Development Round is sufficiently notable that the fact that it began with a meeting at this hotel is relevant. --Eastmain (talk) 17:30, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The WTO's Doha Development Round passes Wikipedia's standards for notability. The hotel does not.  Notability is not inherited. And please take a few minutes to read the contents of Peninsula On-line and Gulf Times -- all they did was rerun press releases. Ecoleetage (talk) 17:35, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.   —Eastmain (talk) 17:30, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete-yep, it's definitely strange how the works cited copy each other...--Forego (talk) 18:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete The "sources" just restate the press release from the hotel. I still see nothing that comprises significant third party coverage. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!) 21:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: WP:N specifically says 2 third party sources, not repetetive copies of the same thing. Ironholds 16:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per below sources. A hotel of this size and nature is almost guaranteed to be notable, so if the sources below are not enough there are almost certainly plenty of others.  Here are 76 hits in the New York Times alone (one would have to check each one out, but at least some look like significant coverage).  It does the encyclopedia no good to nitpick by poking holes in a subject area like this where most of the comparable institutions are covered.   Wikidemo (talk) 23:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete The references are crummy and the subject is not notable. Director33 (talk) 23:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment. Let's analyze the references and external links one by one.
 * References

1. ^ Sheraton Doha Hotel & Resort Official Website - About Sheraton Doha Hotel & Resort Retrieved 30-07-2008 This is a primary source, and appears in the references only because there is an inline reference to the hotel's website. 2. ^ "Sheraton opens Irish restaurant", Peninsula On-line (Qatar) (2007-12-14). Retrieved on 2008-07-30. This is a newspaper article, identified as "Source ::: The Peninsula". The opening of a new (and perhaps expensive) restaurant is news. 3. ^ Callinicos, Alex (Tuesday 29 July 2008). "The WTO: trading in the rights of the poor", Socialist Worker. Retrieved on 2008-07-30. This is a newspaper column. 4. ^ Sharkey, Joe (May 11, 2004). "Business Travel: On The Road; Friendlier Skies on an Unfriendly Planet", The New York Times. Retrieved on 2008-07-30. This is a newspaper article from The New York Times. 5. ^ "QNH invests more than QR40m on renovations", Peninsula On-line (Qatar) (July 10, 2007). Retrieved on 2008-07-30. This also is a newspaper article, identified as "Source ::: The Peninsula" This also is a newspaper article, identified as "Source ::: The Peninsula" This is a newspaper article, credited to "Staff Reporter".
 * "Hotel Happenings: Sheraton’s Sweet Sleeper Bed", Peninsula On-line (Qatar) (Jul 15, 2008). Retrieved on 2008-07-30.
 * "Hotel wins seven travel awards", Gulf Times (Sunday, 27 May, 2007). Retrieved on 2008-07-30.


 * External links

This is a primary source. This is a primary source (of the hotel's owner, rather than of Sheraton, the manager. Press release, distributed through AME Info. Press release, distributed through AME Info.
 * Sheraton Doha Hotel & Resort Official Website
 * Qatar National Hotels Company – Sheraton Doha Resort & Convention Hotel
 * "Summer mango treats at the Sheraton. Sheraton Doha Resort & Convention Hotel begun its month-long festival of Mango & Pancakes preparations.", AME Info (United Arab Emirates) (July 5, 2008). Retrieved on 2008-07-30.
 * "Sheraton Doha launches the Link @ Sheraton", AME Info (United Arab Emirates) (Thursday, August 30, 2007). Retrieved on 2008-07-30.

Comment back First, that listing of New York Times hits is sloppy, with most of the stories having nothing to do with the subject at hand. As for the value of the Peninsula Newspaper -- I am sorry, but their "articles" don't look much like articles (what serious newspaper runs a piece without a byline about the installation of a fancy bed in a hotel?). No matter how you slice it, this doesn't add up. Ecoleetage (talk) 03:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


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