Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shimon Green


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Cirt (talk) 23:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Shimon Green

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This article was written in 2007 and has had edits over the months but still look non-notable. Just another rabbi. If the same non-notable standards apply, tens of thousands of pastors and rabbi and imans would qualify and Wikipedia is not a directory. JB50000 (talk) 07:46, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm not sure, but he is a founder of a notable organization - Bircas HaTorah. Google News Archives offer several articles in English, and the search in Hebrew could give us better information about him. --Vejvančický (talk) 11:27, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 02:16, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions.  —Vejvančický (talk) 11:27, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions.  —Vejvančický (talk) 11:27, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. I added a reference from the Jerusalem Post. - Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:58, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Weak Keep only if severely trimmed to eliminate all unsourced opinion. I am prepared to accept that a  Rosh Yeshiva is likely to be notable, but there needs to be some way of writing sourced articles.  This is a good counter example to those who think adding a source to  an article solves all of its problems.    DGG ( talk ) 03:18, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per DGG, and with trimming. From practice, if not written policy, I have seen articles on Roshei Yeshiva, and I believe that anyone who holds that title in a medium or large Yeshiva is notable, and I believe Yeshivas Bircas Hatorah is such. This is a subjective opinion, but I know something about this world and an opinion is better than not having one.  I did a Hebrew search and saw Rabbi Green's name on lists but no full-length articles about him or authored by him.  Still, I disagree with nominator's concern that keeping this article would rationalize thousands more because there are not thousands of people who hold his rank of leadership. Chutznik (talk) 06:43, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Much of the article was copied, almost word-for-word but not as a copyvio, from this biography page. It's not a neutral source, but I have no reason to doubt the facts stated there, and with the fluff removed, the "what he did when" type content can stay in an encyclopedia. Chutznik (talk) 06:53, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.