Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shine (Shinee song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Major keep argument came from the article's creator, who was not really following policy. Shii (tock) 05:08, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Shine (Shinee song)

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Song fails WP:GNG. It was released digitally as part of the album, and charted poorly. It received no significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. Article has no sources that actually discuss the song besides a record review of the entire album. Article is padded with superfluous information about Teddy Riley. Shinyang-i (talk) 21:55, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Shinyang-i (talk) 21:56, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete not notable enough for its own page Asdklf&#59; (talk) 22:20, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - I am the creator of the article and many more that have been nominated for deletion by User:Shinyang-i. So obviously I would say Keep since I am undoubtedly biased towards articles I have created like anyone else. Surely I was not able to gain enough English references to "prove its notability" and I cannot read Korean so it is difficult for me to find Korean references. But everyone let's take a look on this song "It Takes Two", it's an English song by the "famous" Katy Perry. It's not a single. She only performed it in her concerts. It has no music video. It charted on Korean Gaon chart (Korean, not US chart) but of course far below Shinee's "Shine (Shinee song)" which had spot #100. Whats the difference here then? Shinee's "Shine" is more notable than Katy Perry's song, but NOT 'yet' on wikipedia because we were not able to gather enough references due to language barriers; and instead of asking help from Korean wikipedians for references, we resorted to deleting that article - why? because its easier. This article is not trash - believe me this song is notable. Katy Perry's song is also notable. We just have to improve such articles by asking help and not just deleting them. With a few more good references "Shine" will be just as good as "It Takes Two". So please reconsider. I am busy in my exams so I will not be able to comment again but I had to say all of this. Thanks. FudgeFury  ( talk &#124; sign &#124; contribs ) 14:46, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * @FudgeFury Perhaps you would like to list that article for deletion? it is hardly a standard by which we should measure other articles. I'm sorry about your difficulty finding Korean sources, but it begs the question of how you know it to be so notable in a way not already portrayed within the article? Asdklf&#59; (talk) 01:25, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  Rcsprinter123     (spiel)  @ 22:05, 3 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge to Why So Serious? – The Misconceptions of Me: Not an official hit single. Tibbydibby (talk) 00:10, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. The site has enough infos, it just lacks some reliable sources. There should be users out there who speak Korean to help out. So keep the site and wait or merge the article. It would be a shame to delete it without to give others a chance to help out. --46.115.144.142 (talk) 14:59, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Just FYI, the article was created in July 2014. Plenty of time has elapsed for people to "help out."  Also, presence of "info" doesn't fulfill requirements to have an article.  It has to be the right kind of info.  Notability has not been established for the song. Shinyang-i (talk) 15:56, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Delete. No reliable sources. If no-one has added any, the presumption must be that there aren't any. Maproom (talk) 17:39, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete It fails WP:GNG. If we want, we can incorporate some of the info as a part of the album article instead.--TerryAlex (talk) 04:23, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   17:30, 11 January 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 20:42, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nothing really worth merging. Unlikely to be useful as a redirect. --Michig (talk) 14:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Insufficient coverage in reliable sources to support notability. Merge not useful.  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  02:13, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.