Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shion (album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 15:20, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Shion (album)

 * ( [ delete] ) – (View AfD) (View log)

Not notable. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:30, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Album contains song that featured in Cloverfield and it will be released by the time this AFD will be closed. Also "In general, if the musician or ensemble that recorded an album is considered notable, then officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia." Nominator did not explain why this criterion did not apply. - Mgm|(talk) 10:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I would just point to the operative words "may have". If it's notable, a couple good references shouldn't be hard to find...ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:54, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete, fails notability per WP:MUSIC, lacking in significant independent coverage in reliable sources.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 23:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:43, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Who the fuck are you to judge it "not notable"? It's being released internationally, includes songs in a major movie. It's japanese band so the idea that "couple good references shouldn't be hard to find" may or may not be complete bullshit. What's this anyway? http://www.jame-world.com/us/article.php?id=6069 Juzhong (talk) 02:15, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a good article you found. Not a great source since the website is about promoting these bands and their music, but a good article with information on the group and the album. I added it to the article. I still think it should be deleted because it's not notable enough, per wikipedia guidelines, but a redirect or merge would be okay too. The article says the songs have already been released on another album. What's notable about this album? Why can't the information be included in the band's article?ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Is this like "The Wikipedia from the American point of view"? The WP article says "Many of the songs from this album appeared previously in the US on the album Best of MUCC", presumably a compilation album. Shion is a studio album which includes three singles which charted in Japan. 14:56, 26 November 2008 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Juzhong (talk • contribs)
 * Including an article noting that three songs charted in Japan would go a long way to establishing notability. Please add those citations. I haven't seen any articles talking substantively about this album (let alone saying any of the songs on it have charted) other than the one from a website whose purpose is "to promote Japanese contemporary music" to the world. I added that citation to the article. I don't know what any of this has to do with where I live. If the album, most of which has already been released in some places, is notable then it just needs to be demonstrated. The information you claim isn't even in the article and I'm not clairvoyant.ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:53, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Suggest Redirect. Keeping in with comments stated by Mgm and link provided by Juzhong, there is definitely a hint of notability. But there is still a need of significant amount of coverage in third-party sources. In lack of these, I think the article to redirected to artist's article. LeaveSleaves talk 03:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. If the band is notable, so is the album.   Little Red Riding Hood  talk  03:26, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.