Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shirasangi Lingaraj Desai


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The result was no consensus. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 20:40, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Shirasangi Lingaraj Desai

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Subject does not appear to meet relevant notability guidelines and lacks non-trivial coverage from independent reliable sources. Steps were taken to locate sources WP:BEFORE this nomination, but were not successful. Saqib (talk) 18:05, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 11:57, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 11:57, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


 * comment well if living to the ripe old age of 145 years old isn't notable, I dont know what is! The Guiness Book of Records still seems to think the oldest person is that young whippersnapper Jeanne Calment tho... Curdle (talk) 18:58, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * To be fair, at the risk of spoiling some nice irony, the article gives Desai's birth date but no deathdate, but uses the verb "was" in the lead sentence, and never says that he is still alive. Indeed the latest date that any act of his is mentioned is 1906. It says that the trust set up with his funds is still making payments, but that is quite different. (No opinion yet on keep vs delete.) DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 23:28, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 00:16, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I was going by the infobox- birth and death date, both referenced.
 * You are correct, I ahd missed the infobox. The source there is primary, in fact a court document. I rather suspect that "2006" is an error for "1906", but if so it is an error in the source. If this is kept, I would remove the infobox death date as not reliably sourced. As the court document says that the person who died was the testator of the will that created the trust, this is probably not a different person of the same name. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 16:57, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

delete Not notable. Only thing he seems to be known for setting up the Navalgund-Sirasangi Trust in 1906 It has four refs; one is what appears to be an Indian Government minister's website; said politician claims to be descended from the subject, so cannot be considered neutral. Two is a travel blog- which barely mentions the subject anyway. Three is some sort of legal document? which looks like a primary source regarding the trust and passing mention of a death, which is more than likely not actually the original Shirasangi Lingaraj Desai, considering it was 100 years after the trust was founded (thats where death date in the infobox comes from) and Fourth is a google books excerpt which is mainly about the trust. I couldnt find much anywhere else except two passing mentions in the Hindu saying he was a wealthy philanthropist who founded the trust. Curdle (talk) 00:57, 19 May 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak keep - very little online coverage exists, but he was apparently part of the royal family, and a notable college and education society was named after him. The Hindu reported that his 153rd birthday was celebrated, which certainly meets Wikipedia's policy of having enduring coverage. [] Weighing the loss of news with the passage of time, and the language barrier, I think there's something here just barely worth keeping. Hopefully the article can be expanded. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  22:44, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   10:16, 26 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep internet search reveals another source, which I've added, showing posthumous recognition in 2012.Egaoblai (talk) 15:40, 26 May 2018 (UTC)


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