Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shirtlifter


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Shirtlifter

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WP is not Myspace. This article, created 2005, appears to be an autobiography. The article is poorly sourced or relies on primary sources, and many biographical details are completely unvetifiable. A Gsearch gave 182 unique hits which reveal almost nothing but directory links or own website. Ohconfucius ¡digame! 13:49, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete No evidence of notability anywhere, in the article or otherwise. In fact it qualifies for a speedy deletion, as it makes no serious claim of significance, but after this much time another week is not a big deal. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Actually it does not qualify for a speedy deletion, because it claims the musician had a series of "hit singles." It remains to be determined whether any of his work actually qualifies as a "hit" or satisfies WP:BIO. No opinion pending someone evaluating the claims. Anyone with a PC can "release albums" and may have his own, not widely shared, opinion that they were "hits." Edison (talk) 18:03, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * For speedy deletion under A7 we could argue about whether the article makes a "credible claim of significance or importance", that is to say whether the claim, in its context in the article, is credible. However, that is irrelevant, since it is not proposed for speedy deletion, and what matters for this AfD is whether the claim can be supported by reliable sources. The claim that the recordings in question were "hits" is based on "Top 40, CBC Galaxie Electronic". CBC Galaxie Electronic is an obscure online "radio station". I can find no evidence anywhere that the station does anything other than plug Shirtlifter's music. Not only can anyone with a PC, as Edison says, "release albums", but they can also set up a self promotional web site that makes their recordings available and call that site an "online radio station". No reliable source that I can find treats these recordings as "hits". These recordings are not "hit singles" by any reasonable interpretation of the expression. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:27, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  —  D OOMSDAYER 520  (Talk|Contribs) 18:40, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * We shouldn't have an article about this person, but actually "Shirtlifter" is a plausible search term. (At least in British English, it's a somewhat old-fashioned pejorative term for a male homosexual.) I don't think it should be a redlink.  -- Perhaps redirect to some appropriate list of slurs?  (We have a "list of ethnic slurs" and a "list of religious slurs" but I have not found a "list of homophobic slurs".  Presumably one exists?)— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  19:35, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't find any reliable source for that meaning of the word. I am willing to accept that it exists, but it must be very obscure. It does not seem likely to be used as a search term by somebody wanting information about homosexuality. Is there really a point to introducing such a list? JamesBWatson (talk) 12:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Per JamesBWatson for failure to satisfy WP:N or any subsidiary guideline. Edison (talk) 01:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.