Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shivani Rangole (3rd nomination)


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The result was delete. While the !votes numerically favor keeping, no clear cut evidence has been provided of the subject meeting GNG, and the exhaustive analysis of the sources in the article has not been rebutted. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Shivani Rangole
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Fails WP:NACTOR, most of the roles are trivial in nature. Fails WP:GNG. The article looks more like a Résumé of the subject. Zoodino (talk) 12:11, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep Passes WP:GNG as "topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" and satisfies WP:NACTOR as the topic has had prominent roles in later movies like & Jara Hatke and features in lead roles in the last three TV serials, with the role in the latest ongoing serial, Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar, especially appreciated due to very accurate portrayal of rural wife of the protagonist. Has had critically acclaimed roles on the Marathi stage, winning couple of Marathi theatre awards. Also was featured prominently in Imtiaz Ali's debut web series "She" with a 2nd season in production, her latest marathi web series featuring in the lead role "Idiot Box" has had favorable reviews with acting of both the leads highly praised in mainstream media. Mayurchanakya (talk) 13:42, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Please read the below analysis to really understand what WP:GNG is, I think you have wrong idea about the terms independent and significant. Zoodino (talk) 07:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. A Google search turns up numerous news references, even in English.  Significant roles in notable works are listed, and since most of the roles are in foreign languages, it would be inappropriate to delete this article without a reading of the sources in Marathi by a Marathi speaker. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:08, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Try to analyse the refs, sometimes it will reveal a Google Search is just not sufficient for establishing notability. Zoodino (talk) 07:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment This page creator have added everything with the name of the subject available on the Internet as a ref(WP:REFBOMB. Clearly one of the motive to make it look like it passes WP:GNG. But after exhaustive analysis of all the refs, I can say with confidence that the sources with significant coverage are not independent and the independent sources all just mention the subject trivially. Hope this analysis would help other fellow editors to make a more informed decision. [unsigned by Zoodino]


 * Well i had a understanding that independent sources meant primary sources which are not in anyway affiliated to the topic like self-published blog, social media accounts or a paid piece. You have presented your opinions like "interview, the language of article clearly suggests that it is a pr article" in the analysis for independent sources, such random accusations can be made of any piece on any celebrity in the news. And the sources which you maybe not familiar with, you have randomly tagged as "non-notable" and you have not added the sources which are in marathi, which may hint of systemic bias towards any non-english sources. The sources that you have treated as independent you say have trivial mention, your definition of trivial mention maybe different but i doubt multiple lines on the subject praising their acting and articles on the topic playing the role etc can be treated as trivial. I dont see what was wrong in adding the award winner's list as a reference for mention of the topic receiving the award in the article. I hope the fellow editors will actually go through the references independently and not be biased just because the the above user has created a table filled with his opinions Mayurchanakya (talk) 10:57, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Zoodino, your repeated arguments above and desperate "analysis" below make me wonder if you have some kind of personal vendetta against this actor. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:04, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I have been wondering that too, personal opinions are being conveniently passed on as "analysis" in the form of a table, so as to bias the opinions of any future editor who may skip actually going through the references personally. Mayurchanakya (talk) 10:47, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Notability established. Leave targeted feedback for remediation of quality issues.  Ktin (talk) 21:54, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. As above, notability is established. Article however reads poorly and needs improvement. --Whiteguru (talk) 06:57, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 05:31, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Essentially everything that passes as an interview of a media personality -- in any country -- is PR written and intended as PR., and an attempt to use this as the basis for an editor article is an attempt to turn WP into a PR vehicle. A safer rough criterion is whether there is any reason for anything other than PR to be written, and --since I do not know the films--if she has never appeared in a major role, there's no reason to think her notable .  DGG ( talk ) 07:08, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete for lack of a good redirection target (She (TV series) maybe?; article has views, subject is listed under Cast). A few marginal roles in a marginal (regional) industry. Not seeing a pass of NACTOR, nor GNG; it's WP:TOOSOON. Ping me with your best WP:THREE if you feel strongly that I am in error. Best, Usedtobecool ☎️ 15:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)


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