Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shivom Tirth


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. The value of a potential merge can be discussed further on the article's talk page. Shereth 21:02, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Shivom Tirth

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Religious leader that is not notable. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 00:16, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hinduism-related deletion discussions.   —Ism schism (talk) 00:18, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions.   —Ism schism (talk) 00:18, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Multiple sources available ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 05:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.   —Ism schism (talk) 03:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment There are sources written by this individual as well as sources that mention him. The problem with this article is lack of notability. There are no reliable sources that establish the subjects notability. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 23:38, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Evil Spartan (talk) 00:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete A few books (by him, not about him), apart from that nothing that meets notability. --Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 07:25, 24 July 2008 (UTC) criteria.


 * keep a few seems to = several dozen, but there is no clear way we can tell their importance for lack of sources. This is an unfortunate limitation of cultural bias in available material. I said keep on the basis that his ashram does publish a magazine with an ISSN, and at least 23 of his books (counting both English and Hindi editions) are in scattered US research libraries, both showing some degree of grounding.DGG (talk) 23:39, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply I agree that he wrote lots of books. These books however are not the subject of any scholarly reviews. I do not see any cultural bias here - as this is a strong statement, could you explain further? Aside from writing books, there are no claims to notability, nor reliable sources to back up these claims. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 02:11, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * keep or merge with his guru Swami Vishnu Tirth who seems to have an established page. Dakinijones (talk) 20:00, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge relevant points with his guru's article. -- Shruti14 t c s 03:24, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per DGG or Merge with his guru. He is mentioned, unfortunately on the restricted page 165 in this scholarly work Gurus in America, in the chapter on The Perfectibility of Perfection, Siddha Yoga as a Global Movement. Plenty of name variants Shivom, Sivom, Tirth(a) even Shiv Omtirth.  He seems to have published works that are cited often enough, e.g. one by his guru.John Z (talk) 10:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


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