Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shomprakash Sinha Roy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There may or may not be one or two good sources in the massive list, but either way, the subject doesn't seem to meet notability guidelines. ansh 666 08:54, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Shomprakash Sinha Roy

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Promotional article of an apparently self-published author who may not meet wikipedia's standards of notability for authors. Many of details in the article are misleading/false (eg, claim that Penguin Publishers included subject's story in an anthology), non-noteworthy (eg, the listed awards), or unsupported by secondary sources (eg, most of the biographical details). Article was created by an editor (and their sock accounts) with apparent conflict of interest, and after their submitted draft was reviewed and rejected by five independent reviewers, the draft's creator simply reviewed, accepted and moved their own submission to mainspace. Abecedare (talk) 16:10, 9 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 16:11, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 16:11, 9 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete primarily per nom. I'm inclined to argue that this individual, at this time, fails to pass WP:AUTHOR primarily due to their lack of reference and mention in WP:RS. From the page's 23 listed references, I was able to find only two thid-party mentions, one regarding weight loss and largely unrelated to the author career (here) and another discussing a brief 2013 interview by The Hindu, (here). Per the listings at WP:AUTHOR, this subject fails to meet the criterion, The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work, as well as The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors. -- HunterM267  talk 17:29, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Move to the Draft namespace.I think it would be a good decision. ARKA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Sroy (talk • contribs) 04:08, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep the article. Decision based on the fact that said author has noted as a public literary figure. He been a guest speaker at MICA Ahmedabad and IIT BHU, both institutions of national repute in India. He has also served as co-editor for the book 21 Things About Romance, in which he interviewed 100+ authors, selected 21 authors and recommended their work for inclusion in the anthological opinion book. He has been included to the Forbes Top 100 Celebrities long-list in 2014: http://www.forbesindia.com/printcontent/39097, and has written and directed a national TVC for Amagi Corporation - Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irebwxOtioY Making of video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSjetN8Ry20. The references included here should not be ignored. This is a notable person and author according to WP:AUTHOR criteria, has never added promotional material to the Wikipedia page, and frankly, the move to delete this page is being seen as deep rooted in racism. I urge you to reconsider and look up the author's accomplishments before making a decision. Requesting you to draw an example from Durjoy Datta's page, who has also been listed on Wikipedia for the same exact reasons. Shomprakash Sinha Roy has worked his way hard after dropping out of college, has never had any form of wealth to support his public relations, never worked with a PR agency, and has been a struggling author who received his due credits starting with the publication of his books. We beg you to consider what this means for an individual who places his faith in the democratic web. Please Keep. — 27.59.105.10 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 05:25, 10 July 2018 (UTC).


 * Pushing for a thorough review and edit of content included in this piece, since it is a biography of a living person, and then Keep this article. — 27.59.105.10 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 05:31, 10 July 2018 (UTC).


 * Keep the article. We have performed a thorough search of all references and reviews, found the following valid links defining notability as per WP:AUTHOR criteria. Most links included below.

List of some of the most notable public articles and interviews with Shomprakash Sinha Roy:

Bangalore Mirror:

https://bangaloremirror.indiatimes.com/techie-the-pink-smoke/articleshow/23056732.cms

Forbes India:

http://www.forbesindia.com/article/special/forbes-india-celebrity-100-nominees-list-for-2014/39097/1

http://www.forbesindia.com/printcontent/39097

The Hindu:

https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-metroplus/shades-of-the-writer/article5211286.ece

https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-metroplus/rock-till-you-drop/article19990373.ece

The Times Blog Feature on Smash One, featuring Shomprakash: https://www.thetimesblog.com/features-rock-band-smash-one/

The Times of India: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/music/news/We-wanted-our-music-to-uphold-the-struggle-we-went-through-The-Pedestrians/articleshow/20241816.cms

Other Interviews & Review:

https://learningandcreativity.com/every-book-spell-magic-says-shomprakash/

https://newsable.asianetnews.com/life/90-to-60-kgs-in-3-months-this-bangalore-based-author-weight-loss-journey-is-inspiring

https://gulnaazrizvi.wordpress.com/2014/06/25/author-interview-shomprakash-sinha-roy/

http://writingtipsoasis.com/51-top-indian-authors-to-follow-on-facebook/

http://thirstydesires.blogspot.com/2014/02/

https://theauthorsblog.com/2014/07/20/interview-with-shomprakash-sinha-roy/

Guest columns and peptalks:

http://onwriting.in/shomprakash-sinha-roy/

https://wrimoindiawrites.wordpress.com/2015/11/23/broken-promises-a-peptalk-by-shomprakash-sinha-roy/

Some notable public reviews of Shomprakash Sinha Roy’s work:

https://heartglazier.blogspot.com/2014/05/21-things-about-romance.html

https://ilagarg.wordpress.com/2014/07/06/21-things-about-romance-book-review/

Book listing on Amazon Global:

https://www.amazon.com/Life-Served-Hot-Shomprakash-Sinha/dp/9381841101

Goodreads Author Page:

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6896203.Shomprakash_Sinha_Roy

The reference links are accurate and may be cross-checked.

Decision requested based on reference links: Keep the article. Edits can be requested to align content for further neutrality.106.51.71.7 (talk) 05:59, 10 July 2018 (UTC)Neutral
 * Comment: Since HunterM267 has already assessed the "quality" of these references, which the article has already been bombarded with, I'll only add that even the two mentions of the subject in The Hindu are in the "Metro Plus" supplement, and as has been discussed previously at WP:RSN (eg, here) such city/lifestyle supplements of even mainstream Indian newspapers are often just lightly reported/copyedited reprints of press releases. Abecedare (talk) 18:09, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete The sources presented by the above IP are laughably bad. Amazon? Really? CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  18:12, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Fails WP:NAUTHOR.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:41, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Petition toKeep the article. The comment above (Comment: Since HunterM267 has already assessed the "quality" of these references, which the article has already been bombarded with, I'll only add that even the two mentions of the subject in The Hindu are in the "Metro Plus" supplement, and as has been discussed previously at WP:RSN (eg, here) such city/lifestyle supplements of even mainstream Indian newspapers are often just lightly reported/copyedited reprints of press releases. Abecedare (talk) 18:09, 16 July 2018 (UTC)) should be challenged - These were all newspaper mentions by the publications directly. These were not pushed as press releases, and none of the press releases issued under Shomprakash Sinha Roy (also listed as page references) match the content published in the newspapers. This is an open attempt to remove the article forcefully. Requesting intervention from Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.206.90.250 (talk)


 * Review, adding reference links:

1. Durjoy Datta on Wikipedia - this is the man who launched the publishing house that published Shomprakash's work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durjoy_Datta 2. Wikipedia article on one of Grapevine India's books: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_It%27s_Not_Forever

Citing similarities, and if a cleanse must be performed, it should be thorough. Else all articles pertaining to the subject and/or associated identities must remain and be subjected to edits for a neutral approach. Keep. Edit.

Reference links attached in previous comment thread are valid, from reliable Indian publications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeldascottfitzgerald (talk • contribs) — Zeldascottfitzgerald (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


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