Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shonduras


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Sam Sailor Talk! 09:07, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Shonduras

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This seems to be a spoof and it totally lacking in notability or encyclopedic value. GetSomeUtah (talk) 00:14, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:33, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:33, 24 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep meets WP:GNG, WP:NPEOPLE and WP:ENT Daniel kenneth (talk) 14:03, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Response and question. Could you please explain how, specifically, it meets WP:GNG, WP:NPEOPLE, and WP:ENT? By my reading, it fails all three.  Those three links cover a lot of territory, and this is appears to be an all-too-common Wikipedia editor technique of sending users off to hunt down the opposing side's position.  Those three links don't say "spoof articles are fine in Wikipedia."  Thanks much.  GetSomeUtah (talk) 11:15, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Could already be said to meet WP:ENT criteria number 2 for he has at least 400,000 subscribers in youtube and was reported to have 240,000 friends in snapchat. Meeting criteria 3 is still questionable though. Daniel kenneth (talk) 15:46, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


 * The notability guidelines for people doesn't necessarily mean that an article does or does not meet notability. If the article fails WP:GNG then the article fails to meet notability. I will however come back to this later. Mr rnddude (talk) 15:56, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The social media issue:  I am always told social media can't be used as a source on WP (see WP:SOURCE), in part because you can buy 240,000 friends for only fractions of a penny per friend from mills in India and elsewhere.  This is a well-known technique that celebrities use to boost the numbers of their Twitter followers, etc. GetSomeUtah (talk) 16:57, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree with you there, however, after googling the Shonduras, I came across quite a few independent sources that talk about the person. Mostly news sources if I recall. Mr rnddude (talk) 17:03, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, joe deckertalk 01:26, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:57, 11 July 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist &mdash; Music1201  talk  19:11, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Music1201  talk  19:11, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep - On the basis of the deadline.com article, which appears to be a bylined reliable source to me, and the Streamy Award, which is notable enough to have it's own Wikipedia page, suggesting reliability. Neither of these seem to be vanity pages/awards, both seem to have editorial review, and that makes them reliable.  I stopped reviewing at this point, so I don't know about the rest of the references, but two reliable sources are enough to establish notability for me. Fieari (talk) 06:24, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * That follower count means nothing for ENT. And receiving a Streamy award does not mean automatic notability—and remember that those single notability guidelines are meant to be shortcuts for the existence of sufficient sourcing. So let's see the sources. What are you saying is reliable? Because the Deadline source is a passing mention and not significant coverage. czar  21:08, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Looks like plenty of coverage. Keep in mind some of the sources don't mention the name "Shonduras", calling him by his real name, Shaun McBride. Forbes, Time, AdWeek, Recode, Tubefilter, Mashable, Forbes again, USA Today, Streamdaily, Poynter, The Verge, Fusion, Fast Company, KSL, Digiday...... not even through Google News hits. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 14:36, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - There is more then sufficient coverage of the personality to warrant their having an article. Examples; Include articles by Forbes,, Deseret News (never heard of them) and the Shorty Awards . Mr rnddude (talk) 14:59, 23 July 2016 (UTC)


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