Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shoot, shovel, and shut up

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 17:21, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

3 S's, which is now Shoot, shovel, and shut up
Definition of slang term. Recommended transwiki to wiki-dictionary. jdb &#x274b; (talk) 23:26, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) Delete. If this term is actually used at all, it is probably a very limited local useage. Edeans 02:58, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as neologism, nonnotable, whatever, unless someone can verify usage. Postdlf 23:27, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Wiktionary would reject this for being encyclopaedic. It's an article about the method, not about the phrase. And a Google Groups search reveals that this phrase, and related phrases like "3S dog", are in use, and that this method of dealing with animals exists. Keep, but perhaps with a better name. Uncle G 02:19, 2005 Mar 18 (UTC)
 * Keep the rewritten article. Kappa 01:40, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC) Move to wiktionary. Pace Uncle G, this is just explaning the meaning of the phrase. What would wiktionary have about it, if not this? 4,690 hits for "shoot, shovel", appears to be in use regarding BSE. Kappa 03:05, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Concur with Edeans. android&harr;talk 03:31, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep rewritten article.. Rad Racer 04:39, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Out of curiosity, rural where? I'm originally from a rural area and I've never heard anything like this. If anything, if it is kept, the article needs to be more specific as to where this term is in use. android&harr;talk 05:16, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Shoot, shovel, and shut up already exists as an article, and there is nothing here to merge there. I cannot imagine anyone searching for this article using the term "3 S's" Denni &#9775; 01:16, 2005 Mar 19 (UTC)
 * Ahem. Rad Racer moved 3 S's to Shoot, shovel, and shut up, then expanded the article and removed the VFD notice from it. Saying that "Shoot, shovel, and shut up already exists" is rather bizarre, considering that that is the very article that was nominated for deletion here.  Similarly, saying that the article nominated here should be deleted in favour of Shoot, shovel, and shut up is bizarre, considering that that is the article nominated here.  If you want to delete 3 S's, the redirect created by Rad Racer, then that's fair enough (although WP:RFD is really the place to discuss it).  But please be clear about what article is being discussed for deletion.  My keep vote for Shoot, shovel, and shut up stands, by the way.  I intended to improve the original article myself, but found when I sat down to do it that Rad Racer had beaten me to it by 20 minutes. Uncle G 08:24, 2005 Mar 19 (UTC)
 * Ahem also. And there is a reason for being so, ehm, snotty about this? Why should it be "bizarre" to say that Shoot, shovel, and shut up exists? Is it my bad that there is no redirect notice when you pull up this article? Be nice. Denni &#9775; 19:43, 2005 Mar 19 (UTC)
 * Keep and improve rewritten article -- Jmabel | Talk 00:53, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)


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