Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shooting of Adam Toledo


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was not keep per snowball clause. This article is obviously not going to be kept being a duplicate of the other article. Actual action is to merge to Killing of Adam Toledo.

If the other article should be deleted for other reasons, then nominate the other article instead. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste  (t, e &#124; c, l) 16:30, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Shooting of Adam Toledo

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Wikipedia is not a newspaper or newswire service. I'm getting awfully tired of Wikipedians either moonlighting as journalists or racing to create anemic pages for current news events without any regard for our notability standards. KidAd •  SPEAK  20:34, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Today, I searched out an article on Adam Toledo. There is interest in the topic because police in Canada and the USA are making questionable decisions on the use of deadly force. There are other similar articles. If such articles are to be banned, what are your criteria? TheTrolleyPole (talk) 20:48, 15 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Is the story notable? It's being covered by all major news outlets, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, etc. Even "foreign" news like BBC. Guardian, Independent, etc. Is the page "anemic"? Yeah, all pages have to start somewhere. AlistairMcMillan (talk) 20:41, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with Killing of Adam Toledo. Garcia1865 (talk) 20:50, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with Killing of Adam Toledo : article subject already exist CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:56, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with Killing of Adam Toledo , don't think this needs an explanation; page already exists. (talk) 21:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge to Killing of Adam Toledo. This is not to say that I am convinced it is a notable event. However clearly we should not have two articles on the exact same or essentially the same topic.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:48, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with Killing of Adam Toledo since it's the same subject. TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 22:06, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with Killing of Adam Toledo per others Ben  ❯❯❯  Talk  23:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with Killing of Adam Toledo per others Doctormatt (talk) 23:41, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge and somebody should just do that now per WP:SNOW.  nableezy  - 23:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete the page currently named Shooting of Adam Toledo (page ID 67410522) per WP:CSD because it's not what this AfD is actually about; then Move Back The Shooting of Adam Toledo (page ID 67408206) to Shooting of Adam Toledo to preserve the page history, because that's the actual Wikipedia page this AfD is about, but the page was moved by almost 6 hours after the AfD was started; then change that page to a Redirect to Killing of Adam Toledo like it's supposed to be.  (Don't move pages during AfDs, folks!)  That article was actually created 30 minutes before Killing of Adam Toledo, but was substub with nothing worth merging now that Killing of Adam Toledo has been expanded on its own.  The creations happened closely enough in time that it's plausable that an editor searched for an existing article, saw no results, and took longer than 30 minutes in good faith to create a new article.  That said, I agree with the nominator's complaint about the general anti-collaborative obsession with inserting breaking news on Wikipedia on the pretense that the content will meet the guidelines for permanent inclusion once it's already inserted: The act of inserting is itself a violation of WP:NOTNEWS/WP:RECENTISM in spirit, because it still interferes with Wikipedia through high rates of edit conflicts and duplicate articles like we saw here. --Closeapple (talk) 06:40, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I have restored the situation to when it was nominated. ~ Aseleste  (t, e &#124; c, l) 16:02, 17 April 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.