Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shubb


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep (non-admin closure). davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  01:11, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Shubb

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I'm seeing lots of mentions of this company and its products, but nothing substantial. Sam Walton (talk) 16:51, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep (was delete) due to evidence presented below. I'll ping someone who might have something more to add about this, either way. Best, FoCuS contribs ;  talk to me!  13:27, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. WP:Before was clearly not followed here. A less than 60 second search in google books provided non-trivial coverage in several publications such as here, here, and here. And that is just a cursory search.4meter4 (talk) 21:50, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The first source seems like alright coverage, but is in a book specifically about capos, which doesn't really demonstrate notability to me, the second is only a mention, and the third appears to be an advert or directory listing. Sam Walton (talk) 21:56, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Please take the time to look through this google books search which has many good references; some better than the ones I listed above. I am on an iPhone without computer access and am extremely busy outside of Wikipedia right now or I would take the time to thoroughly reference the article. Best.4meter4 (talk) 12:41, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No opinion yet. This looks like a pretty good source: http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2007/02/01/8398981/index.htm. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 01:24, 8 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. I came here looking for more information on the history behind Shubb capos. Unfortunately all I have to tell constitutes OR but I have had my Shubb capo for over 30 years and they are a legend with guitar players who use capos - including the late jerry Garcia and Pete Seeger! This is the [][Gibson]] or Fender of capos and just because the company is small and the item cheap doesn't mean it doesn't deserve recognition among the pantheon of musical instrument and accessory makers listed here. Stub Mandrel (talk) 16:07, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * While I appreciate the comment, Wikipedia articles are judged on their ability to meet the requirement of notability, measured by their coverage in reliable sources. Sam Walton (talk) 17:19, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep The lever-over centre principle Rick Shubb introduced to capos is still copied in others, most recently the G7th Newporter. This was an important innovation, one-handed operation with adjustment for neck size. AdrianLegg  — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdrianLegg (talk) 06:56, 14 August 2015 (UTC)  — AdrianLegg (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep per WP:CORPDEPTH: "If the depth of coverage is not substantial, then multiple independent sources should be cited to establish notability." the Shubb capo is nowadays mentioned, and its use explained, in all American banjo and guitar handbooks, as can be gathered from the book search, The Guitarist's Guide to the Capo has images and detailed descriptions of two types of Shubb capos. Kraxler (talk) 17:22, 13 August 2015 (UTC) Amended. Kraxler (talk) 14:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ☮  JAaron95  Talk  17:53, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Shubb capo products are well known in music industry and their product is highly regarded by artists. Their capo design works on vintage and delicate fretted instruments without damaging or compromising. The ability to adjust clamp pressure and cam design is why I use on old as well as modern instruments. They exhibited at Summer NAMM. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isitmiller (talk • contribs) 03:22, 14 August 2015 (UTC)  — Isitmiller (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Sorry guys, this is my first hour here. You guys need a coder who can set you up with .  As for Shubb Capos, it seems to me that Sam Walton is not a musician or he works for Kyser capos.  Shubbs are very well known and respected in the fretted instrument world.  Sam Walton seems to think that knowledge has to have some Kim Khardasian component to be relevent to Wiki.  The article isn't even that long.  Is it truly taking up so much space that it's impinging on something else? KEEP  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BillWendt (talk • contribs) 07:10, 14 August 2015 (UTC)  — BillWendt (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * WP:AGF--Savonneux (talk) 21:00, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * In case it needs clarifying, which it doesn't, I do not work for any competitor of Shubb. Sam Walton (talk) 21:06, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 18:38, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Kraxler, and per WP:CORPDEPTH; and consider a Move, to "Shubb capo". Clearly a topic of discussion in the industry, that has "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject", as per WP:GNG. Expanded with multiple mentions in reliable sources. --Djembayz (talk) 00:22, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * In case it needs clarifying, I also do not work for Shubb or any competitor. As a spring loaded capo user, I learned quite a bit putting this together. Looks like there is a reason why someone went out and recorded the oral history associated with inventing this version of a rather small, and not particularly expensive guitar accessory. Had no idea there was so much to say on the subject of capos. There might even be enough material out there for separate articles on the different types of capos. Some of the authors cited are musicians who have their own Wikipedia articles. It's understandable why a capo would not seem notable for non-musicians, but in this case, it may be better to WP:IAR to serve our actual readers. --Djembayz (talk) 03:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - reasonable amount of notability for a particular category of people presented. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:15, 21 August 2015 (UTC)


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