Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shude International Department


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 14:05, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Shude International Department

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Promotional, no independent reference. Since when are departments of a high school notable? For those confused by the title, the correct name for the subject, as mentioned in the first sentence, is actually "International Department of Chengdu Shude High School (Shude High School in the city of Chengdu)". "International Department" doesn't mean that there are any international students; it just means the teaching focus is on prepping for college entrance exams in Europe/N. America/Australia, as opposed to the more rigorous Chinese national college entrance exam. Timmyshin (talk) 21:13, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:32, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:32, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:32, 19 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete the article lacks indepdent sources to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:44, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. I too at first thought it was adepartment of a high school, but then I read the material more carefull, includingthe articles for the other associated entitities. . It appears to be a separately organized and independently run school, though following a common principle. There was a go od deal of promotionalism in it; I removed it--check the earlier versions. As a high school, it is ordinarily presumed to be notable here, and could probably be proven so if one had the ability to use ḩinese sources.  DGG ( talk ) 16:51, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * How can it be a separate school when the name is "International Department of Shude High School"? Timmyshin (talk) 07:17, 1 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge into Chengdu Shude High School, of which it is a division. -Zanhe (talk) 00:01, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep a school with several international student and searches show many sources. As I said somewhere until community consensus determine that all schools should be subjected strictly to WP:GNG, WP:CORP and WP:CORPDEPTH there is no way we should be handpicking schools to delete while some worse than them (notability-wise) exist. &thinsp;&mdash; Ammarpad (talk) 06:27, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Where are the "many sources" you speak of and who are the "several international student"? There are no international students. Timmyshin (talk) 09:12, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Even the article has sources presently. And per existing community consensus high school are presume notable, excessive nominating them for deletion is even frowned upon. –Ammarpad (talk) 02:47, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * (1) You said "searches show many sources", now you are referring to the article. The article's only source is the official site. (2) This is not a high school, only a department/division. (3) This AFD is not "excessive nomination". (4) No replies on "several international student". Timmyshin (talk) 07:12, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * This is not mere department/division, this shows clearly you only read the title and rush to vote, see DGG's vote. Even me I thought it is a certain department or even company when I first saw the title. Nomination whether excessive or not, schools like this are not deleted. It doesn't matter whether you do it excessively or one-off so as to cause deletion of many after period of time but evade people's eye, who'll otherwise object excessive one. –Ammarpad (talk) 09:02, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * They're not deleted, except when they are. See Articles for deletion/The Sheffield Private School, . Cordless Larry (talk) 09:14, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * the fact that; that one was deleted is not reason for this to be deleted too. Is this reverse-case of WP:OTHERSTUFF?! –Ammarpad (talk) 08:42, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Nope - I'm just pointing out that schools are not always kept like you suggested. There are other examples, and have been quite a few no consensus closes recently, . Cordless Larry (talk) 08:52, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:33, 25 November 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as it's a venture of a school that we already have an article about. Merging would be a possibility if there was any properly sourced content in the article, but it doesn't cite any third-party sources. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:44, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   07:50, 2 December 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.