Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SiFive


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There seems to be a split right down the middle of whether we should have an article or not. If people think a merge / redirect to RISC-V is a suitable compromise, that can be done outside of the scope of this AfD. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:02, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

SiFive

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Tagged by as WP:NOTADVOCATE, WP:NOTCATALOG and WP:PROMO. I initially deleted the article, but after it was contested by another editor here later, I have restored the article to submit here for more discussion. To me, this was another non-notable startup, as the coverage is only on the amount of funding and the list of products. Most of the sources appears to be either press release or unsubstantial coverage that do not establish notability (WP:CORPDEPTH). Alex ShihTalk 04:00, 10 October 2017 (UTC)


 * KEEP - I put "SiFive" into google, it returns "about 1,160,000 results". I'm amazingly amazed a deletion request was put on this article.  •  Sbmeirow  •  Talk  • 04:50, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * With respect, searching without quotation marks is essentially meaningless. "SiFive" gives me 132/33 results after clicking the last page, which is 14. Alex ShihTalk 04:58, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I clicked your Japanese link, and it returns 102,000 at the top of the page. English google.com without quotes returns 1,160,000 at the top of the page. •  Sbmeirow  •  Talk  • 05:59, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:GHITS —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 21:03, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.  M assiveYR   ♠  05:12, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  M assiveYR   ♠  05:12, 10 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge into RISC-V (eg., by expanding the first bullet point under Commercially available to 2 or 3 paragraphs). Technically, this article meets WP:GNG and WP:CORPDEPTH but in both cases only barely, so I'm not convinced we need a separate article about the company. If SiFive does become a significant player in CPU design and/or manufacture, we can always recreate the article. I would say that right now the relevance of SiFive is that it (1) provides open-source implementations of RISC-V (an open ISA) and (2) was founded by 3 of the guys from UCB who created RISC-V. That is, it currently is only important in relation to RISC-V and hence can and should be covered in that article. Cheers, CWC 06:01, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * After reading JJMC89's comment and the sources, I agree that the VentureBeat sources are rewritten press releases, leaving only the AnandTech source, so the article does not really pass WP:CORPDEPTH. (OTOH, the AnandTech article is a serious, independent report from a respected source; the last line just credits SiFive for the diagrams.) So I now say the article should not be kept. CWC 09:57, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. This article meets WP:GNG and WP:CORPDEPTH. Furthermore, two subtantial articles with the reliable source VentureBeat.desmay (talk) 14:38, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect (to RISC-V) per WP:CORPDEPTH. Most of the coverage is about RISC-V and/or is (redressed) press releases. Sources from the article: Bloomberg: directory entry; AnandTech: not independent per last line; VentureBeat 1: indiscriminate/PR coverage; Cadence: no in-depth coverage of SiFive; VentureBeat 2: routine; Fossbytes: no in-depth coverage of SiFive; fudzilla: no in-depth coverage of SiFive. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 21:27, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947 ( c ) (m)   18:46, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. I disagree that this article meets WP:CORPDEPTH. There are no in-depth profiles of the company, no discussion of its impact on its industry or wider society. All of the references read like WP:ROUTINE news coverage of announcements to me, so I am not convinced this meets any notability bar.  A  Train talk 20:17, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete None of the references meet the criteria for establishing notability. Topic fails GNG and WP:NCORP. -- HighKing ++ 17:10, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete -- a promo page on a private company with no indications of notability or significance. The content is 100% advertorial, as in:
 * In August 2017, SiFive hired Naveed Sherwani as CEO.[5] In October, SiFive did a limited release of the U54-MC, a 64-bit CPU SiFive claims can run Linux.[6][7]
 * A merge to a technology / standards page would not be appropriate. Fails WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:GNG. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:59, 23 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - the company was reported to be the first to produce a chip that supports RISC-V ISA, as well as the first to support LINUX. I modified the article accordingly. There are also some other sources of coverage not yet integrated are a few of the best. Passes WP:RS.TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  19:35, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Of those three, the first and third are just redressed press releases and the second is routine funding coverage. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 02:18, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Redressed press releases are the sources for 90% of the corporate news that is reported. Funding implies notability since someone who did more homework than we did thinks they are notable. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  07:24, 25 October 2017 (UTC)


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