Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Side hug (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Future merges or whatever are at editorial discretion. Lankiveil (speak to me) 01:23, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Side hug
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Not notable: all RS refer only to a non-notable 2009 rap song as evidence this term exists. TricksterWolf (talk) 20:49, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge to Hug. Kind of mentioned in an article by the Los Angeles Times, and Google News attests to its usage in reliable sources.  But this article seems to mostly be about the rap song.  There's enough coverage to mention it at hug, but there really isn't significant coverage of the phenomenon itself. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:05, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The article you refer to calls it a "side-to-side" or "buddy hug", and both terms seem to be created on-the-spot to describe the hug rather than suggest people actually use these names. Though the meaning is intuitive once explained, I cannot find any reliable source which suggests people actually use this term apart from mentions of the non-notable rap song of the same name.
 * I remain highly doubtful that this behavior exists as a "type of hug" as I have never in 39 years seen someone perform a "side hug". It looks like two people posing for a picture.  Do people actually do this as a form of intimacy?  I welcome anyone who has actually witnessed a "side hug" in real life to come forth. TricksterWolf (talk) 04:02, 6 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 21:48, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Keep. Googled it and found articles from real life papers referencing side hugs from 2014 w/out talking about rap videos so it still exists Time circuit (talk) 05:00, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, pretty much any phrase can be found in newspapers. The test is whether it receives "significant coverage in reliable sources", not whether it exists.  We need articles that explain what a side hug is, not articles that casually use the phrase. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:23, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   11:37, 20 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable subject with multiple in-depth references in reliable sources meets the WP:GNG.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:21, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. There are one or two sources that are actually about the side hug in the article now, which means that it's probably not worth fighting over this any more.  I still think it should probably be merged, but this is a losing battle that I'm rapidly losing the will the fight.  I've struck my vote, as it seems debatable enough that I just can't care any more. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:00, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. I do not see it as you losing your battle, but rather us Wikipedians jockeying over whether the article should stay or go, testing each other, consulting rule books, so we can learn from each other, sharpen our skillsets, and suchly. In a sense, we are winning our battle to make a truly excellent encyclopedia, so we can go create and improve top notch articles like you did with Psychological thriller -- much better article after your sharp mind honed it Ninja-style. :).--Tomwsulcer (talk) 00:19, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, my phrasing was a bit poor in my previous message, and yours is much, much better. Honestly, I think that I could have done better on that article.  I just nominated another article I wrote for GAN, and I thought psychological thriller would be  as easy to write; it wasn't.  Now that I have access to Highbeam Research and JSTOR through The Wikipedia Library, I might be able to expand it further. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:55, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.