Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sidechain (ledger)


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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  08:58, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Sidechain (ledger)

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No evidence nor claim of notability. No references - past references were entirely crypto sites, not RSes. I've just searched mainstream RSes and Google Scholar and found zero coverage of sidechains in either. No good redirect targets. I only file this as an AFD because it was PRODed already, but never improved. I would love to be proven wrong about the notability of blockchain sidechains, with some mainstream or peer-reviewed RSes ... David Gerard (talk) 19:30, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
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 * In Google Scholar, I found a bit more than "zero coverage":
 * https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C36&q=sidechain+ledger&btnG= (more like dozens).
 * https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160330034A1/en
 * https://books.google.com/books?id=3ZlUDwAAQBAJ&lpg=PP1&ots=-4m3KFPKWJ&dq=sidechain%20ledger&lr&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q=sidechain&f=false
 * Jhfrontz (talk) 20:41, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment this might constitute significant coverage from reliable sources, but this is not clear from the links alone. One-by-one:
 * This is a list of search results. Which particular papers present significant coverage of sidechains?
 * This is a pending patent. Per WP:PATENTS, "patent applications that are not yet issued are self-published, non-independent, primary sources for Wikipedia purposes". Thus is gives little credence to notability.
 * This publisher of this book is a print on demand service. It still could be used as a source, but is less reliable than a peer-reviewed piece or book from an academic press.
 * Overall, it is unclear that these sources are any better than the "crypto sites" that removed from the article. BenKuykendall (talk) 17:12, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarifications.
 * I'm assuming that CRC is a [more] reliable publisher (as in https://books.google.com/books?id=_HatDwAAQBAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PP1&dq=sidechain%20ledger&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q=sidechain&f=false )
 * There is at least one granted patent that references sidechains (e.g., https://patents.google.com/patent/US10438290B1/en?q=sidechain&q=ledger&oq=sidechain+ledger&page=1 ) though there isn't a single all-encompassing definition there (rather, several examples/properties of sidechains are mentioned).
 * https://books.google.com/books?id=LchFDAAAQBAJ&lpg=PA261&vq=sidechain&dq=sidechain&pg=PA261#v=snippet&q=sidechain&f=false (Princeton University Press -- though I think the actual definition of "sidechain" is masked in google books).
 * https://books.google.com/books?id=fvywDAAAQBAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PP1&dq=%22sidechain%22%20ledger%20peer-reviewed&pg=PA22#v=onepage&q=sidechain&f=false (O'Reilly)
 * I'm not really sure how to proceed from this point -- should I continue identifying sources (and adding them to this (or the original article) page?). Also, I should re-state my disclosure: I work for a company that pioneered sidechains and thus I'm not sure how that should guide/temper my participation in this discussion.  --Jhfrontz (talk) 21:05, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  NNADI GOOD LUCK  ( Talk &#124; Contribs ) 04:13, 7 January 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee //  have a ☕️ //  beans  // 08:38, 15 January 2020 (UTC) Lacking further guidance, I opted to enhance the page by adding [what I think are "RS"] references and a couple of links to other pages (as part of additional explanatory text). Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sidechain_%28ledger%29&type=revision&diff=936099540&oldid=933240223. --Jhfrontz (talk) 18:22, 16 January 2020 (UTC)


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