Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Siegmund Klein


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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 04:45, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Siegmund Klein

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No particular reason of notability. One source (3) is dead, one is a general family tree and the book appears to be a collection of letters. TheMagikCow (talk) 09:40, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Comment: Main contributor appears to have a large COI in the subject. One source (personal website with genalogical information) has the same web address as the username - suggesting that there is a personal connection between the article's subject and contributor.


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Siegmund Klein was my grandfather, Ilse Klein my mother and Giorgio Sacerdoti is my brother. Nevertheless I think that an article on Siegmund Klein has a right to exist, in connection with the stolperstein in Cologne. You can see on this website in German https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Stolpersteine_im_K%C3%B6lner_Stadtteil_Neustadt-Nord the description of his life written by someone I dont't know and will probably write the German article on Siegmund Klein in connection with the English one. The www.msacerdoti.it is my website, the stolpersteine page collects all the articles that have been written at the time of the stolpersteine placement. The book is not only a collection of letters but a complete story of Siegmund Klein and his family during the war. It had a large success and was presented in Berlin Shoah Museum and in Cologne. A translation has been published in Italy and one will be published in English.

MSacerdoti (talk) 19:09, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
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MSacerdoti (talk) 00:22, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete a non-notable victim of the holocaust.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:12, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Subject isn't notable. I'm not sold on the Prospero Publishing book and the stolpersteine is an artistic project; it doesn't lend notability. Wikipedia is also WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 20:50, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. As of now, does not meet WP:BIO. I can't find independent sources on Google News, Newspapers, or HighBeam, and he doesn't have a page at yadvashem.org. Yoninah (talk) 23:21, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Here is the yad vashem page of testimony https://yvng.yadvashem.org/nameDetails.html?language=en&itemId=1419724&ind=1
 * that is a page of testimony submitted by the family, not an independent, third-party source. I've previously worked to save other articles on Holocaust survivors, and can tell you that unless they have significant coverage in independent sources, they do not meet Wikipedia's rules for inclusion. Yoninah (talk) 22:57, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


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