Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sietse Bakker


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. I was tempted to close this as "no consensus" but after re-reading the applicable policies, especially WP:BLP1E, I think deletion is indeed the consensus here. Not just because of the number of !votes but regarding strength of argument. To be precise, Stephen (Grk1011) raises a valid point because to take it literally, "event" is not the same as "subject" and being notable for only one subject does not automatically make one a BLP1E subject. Jennavecia correctly points this out and while "just not notable" is generally an argument to avoid, in this case it sums up the more convincing side of this discussion, i.e. that the delete-!votes correctly argue that notability  has not been established. Regards  So Why  09:01, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Sietse Bakker

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Non-notable PR manager for the European Song Contest. Has written a song that was not chosen for Eurovision, is friends with the similarly non-notable Danny Mekić - oh and has given a presentation to a chamber of commerce meeting. That's it! Jezhotwells (talk) 09:52, 24 June 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. I declined the speedy on this one as a non-admin because it had enough of a notability assertion to pass, but this man's claims to fame all fall under WP:BLP1E. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 15:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete - I don't think BLP1E applies here, but he's not notable. لenna  vecia  00:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - BLP1E does not apply since it is one subject he is known for, not one event. He also seems to be notable enough for inclusion, with sources including BBC, CNN, and the European Broadcasting Union. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 04:47, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: The BBC reports him as running a fan site. That isn't an indication of notability. CNN briefly interviews him, and says (on camera) he has been working for Eurovision for thirteen years!!! Impressive for someone born in 1984. The EBU lists his job as a Project manager Internet. This information does not make the grade for notability, I am afraid. This fails on WP:BLP1E. The other reference on the page is a press release from his company. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:16, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.