Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Signs (Paranormal City song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:44, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Signs (Paranormal City song)

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I've heavily edited this page to remove unsourced and (in some cases) fictitious claims, including winning non-existent awards, and removed two very comprehensive tables claiming international singles charts positions for 2002 (the song was recorded in 2014): I've also removed a lot of the indiscriminate piped links such as Niall Bishop, Slasher magazine and (egregiously) Ireland Weekly which appear to have been added in an effort to pad out the page with blue links and thus appear to be more significant. The enduring issue, though, is that none of the remaining references support the claims in the article, and the certifications table is completely unsourced - and in spite of my best efforts, I cannot find anything online to corroborate the claims regarding international sales. Even with this, WP:SONGS states "Has been ranked on national or significant music or sales charts. (Note again that this indicates only that a song may be notable, not that it is notable)" - and without it, I feel the page definitely fails GNG. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 15:17, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 15:31, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 15:31, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 15:31, 5 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Notwithstanding the apparently deliberate inexactitudes noted above, what remains of the article doesn't seem to meet WP:GNG or WP:NSINGLE. On the latter, if the claimed Irish chart placement ("number one in Ireland") were true, then it would likely contribute to notability. However, a review of the IRMA music chart history (circa July 2015 - the claimed release date), returns nothing relating to this song or artist. The chart placements in other countries also fail verification (for example there is zero mention in the US Billboard Top 100 for the period (Aug 2015) when it was supposedly charting there.) The awards are equally spurious. (For example, the claimed 'Top 500 Songs of 2015' exists only in this article. And perhaps someone's imagination). GNG is also not supported (The reviews and coverage claimed in the article are not supported. And, for example, as with the 'Top 500 Songs of 2015', the music journalist "Richard Bugarri" from the magazine "Slasher" has no internet presence - outside of this article). In short, the subject fails the required notability criteria (and the coverage of the subject substantively skirts hoax guidelines). Delete. Guliolopez (talk) 16:25, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: it's not exactly a hoax, because the artist and the song do exist (and you know what, it's actually pretty good). But the chart placings and the certifications/sales are all entirely fictitious... this song didn't chart anywhere. Once you take those out, the article is left with a lot of OR about the song's background and meaning, and some supposed reviews, airplay and awards, none of which are sourced anywhere. You can't even find this song to buy or stream on iTunes, Amazon or Spotify, just on Ryan's Soundcloud and YouTube channels. In short, everything points to this being a song recorded in Ryan's bedroom (including the video) and it fails WP:NSONG. Richard3120 (talk) 03:43, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: now the artiste's page has been deleted, this page has become an orphan. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 10:07, 12 December 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.