Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sila Mariam Shah


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The result was   delete. J04n(talk page) 23:06, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Sila Mariam Shah

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Subject fails WP:AUTHOR. A web search brings up little but Facebook links. Competitions and prizes listed in the article are non notable. Safiel (talk) 19:52, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  19:58, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
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 * Comment - SHE WILL BE PUBLISHING HER FIRST BOOK in december 2013, I THINK THIS ARTICLE SHOULDN'T BE DELETED. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.135.139 (talk) 20:15, 2 May 2013‎ (UTC) --37.14.135.139 (talk) 20:24, 2 May 2013 (UTC) — 37.14.135.139 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete - Little information about her. If or when her first book is published, as 37.14.135.139 suggests that it will be, we can always recreate the page. ö   Brambleberry   of   RiverClan  20:27, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - She is very young girl, with brillian talent. This article SHOULDN'T be deleted as her book will soon be in a market, and already she achieved many things in her life. Being pakistani-spanish UNESCO & AMCTAIC have been greatest achievments of her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.135.139 (talk) 20:41, 2 May 2013 (UTC) — 37.14.135.139 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment - First of all, bolding your comments will not help your argument and I have removed excess bolding. Second of all, claims of possible FUTURE notability do not satisfy Wikipedia requirements of CURRENT notability. You need to establish why this individual is notable at this present time, not why she may be notable in the future. Safiel (talk) 20:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - SHE IS NOTABLE COX OF HER CURRENT ACHIEVMENTS SHE HAD MADE LIVING IN SPAIN, COX SPAINISH IS NOT HER MOTHER TOUNGE. N FROM A VERY BEGINING SHE HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD IN ALL COMPETITIONS. AND  PREMI BONA PLATA JONES 2010  OF SPAIN IS SOMETHING VERY VALUEABLE. ONLY BRILLIANT STUDENT WITH EXCELLENT RESEARCH WORK ARE ABLE T0 ENTER IN THIS COMPETITON. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.135.139 (talk) 21:15, 2 May 2013 (UTC)  — 37.14.135.139 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment - Also, please take a look at WP:ALLCAPS. Writing in all capital letters accomplishes nothing and is very annoying. Safiel (talk) 22:42, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - Nothing that indicates she can pass WP:BIO. Perhaps after she publishes her book.  Not now.  --Crunch (talk) 22:07, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:AUTHOR. Perhaps when her book is published she will meet the guidelines. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:10, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - I think she should be on wikipedia. as a good perfomance she had in her education career. she is underground poetess we can say. I consider her biography to be on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poetesskifan (talk • contribs) 23:05, 2 May 2013 (UTC)  — Poetesskifan (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete. Is it admirable that someone has not only written a book but can speak multiple languages and is considered to be highly intelligent? Yes. Does that make them automatically notable? No. There are a lot of people out there that can doubtlessly not only make the same claims, but some of them could probably top them. The awards she's received aren't really usable for notability either, as the vast majority of them aren't enough to give complete notability, let alone contribute towards it. The big thing is that we need coverage in reliable sources to show that the subject of the article (in this case Miss Shah) is notable in the here and now. We can't keep articles based on the promise that she might be notable one day. The thing about "might" is that it might happen and it might not. I can't tell you how many people are out there, saying that their book/poem/product/talent is going to make them the next big thing. Almost all of them will fail regardless of how talented they are. Fame and notability is often just as much luck as it is talent. The reason I'm elaborating on that is because I want to stress how unlikely it is for any one person to fulfill any claims of future notability and how difficult it is for people to claim current notability. Miss Shah has not been the focus of any in-depth coverage in reliable sources. She might well one day become notable and if/when that happens, we can recreate the article. Until that time, we cannot have an article on Wikipedia. That articles about her have been created and deleted on some of the foreign language Wikipedias (some of which are far less strict on notability standards than we are) is fairly telling about her current notability. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:18, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - but she have been notable in barcelona because of her research project she've doone together with her team. kindly go n search for  premi bona plata joves , n u will know its notable in spain.--37.14.135.139 (talk) 12:11, 3 May 2013 (UTC) jessica — 37.14.135.139 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Actually I was unable to find any real coverage of this prize to show that it's really notable enough to extend notability in general, let alone give absolute notability. The vast majority of prizes or recognitions out there are usually not the sort that give notability. Even if it was, this is a group award and not one that she received by herself. Most group awards of this nature are not the type that give absolute notability. Tokyogirl79  (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:33, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - No coverage in reliable sources. -- Whpq (talk) 20:54, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. No reliable sourcing. If publishes a book, time will tell whether it and the subject are notable.Truth or consequences-2 (talk) 15:25, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - references about her project are valuable. check it out. she've been honoured by a diploma by Director General de Patrimoni Cultural, Sr. Jordi Roca i Armengol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.159.145 (talk) 20:20, 4 May 2013 (UTC)  — 37.14.159.145 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment - Check out all the References guys.--37.14.159.145 (talk) 20:29, 4 May 2013 (UTC) jas — 37.14.159.145 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * I did and they're not enough to show notability. Facebook is never usable as a reliable source. One of the sources links to a Wikipedia article about something else that doesn't establish the notability of the award. The other sources aren't the type that would extend notability either for various reasons. None of them are enough to show that she or her work are so overwhelmingly notable that she passes notability guidelines. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:33, 5 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Despite the verbosity of a few editors, I still do not see enough to warrant a solid notability claim through significant reliable sources nor meeting the criteria for WP:AUTHOR. Mkdw talk 07:01, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
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