Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Silas Baker, Sr.


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 02:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Silas Baker, Sr.

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One could validly tag this for speedy deletion as a non-notable bio of a perfectly undistiguished soldier. The twist is that he did his soldiering 200 years ago. But how does that make him notable? &mdash; RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 02:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable; there is almost no info on Baker in the article, 90% of it is background essay. Brianyoumans (talk) 03:35, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete All the reliable references give the background story or are not used, the more specific sources are family history, and prove no notability. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The article on Silas Baker, Sr. is a very well documented history of a Massachusetts Militiaman who took up the call to arms immediately when the first guns were fired on April 19th, 1775. He went on to serve with the Patriots who courageously took on the most powerful army in the world and in so doing brought about the birth of the United States. Several members of his family and town did the same, in significant numbers for their population. Certainly such individuals were notable. A difference to our present situation is possible. What a very small number of such people did has changed the world! He is a truly notable member of our past. He should be recognized. His story should be made available for those who search our nation's birth. s/s Silas K. Baker, Jr. (no name connection is given in the write up). — Preceding unsigned comment added by ImnFLAOiC (talk • contribs) This comment was made on the talk page of this AfD but I thought it should be brought here because otherwise it might be missed. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 08:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Just being a soldier in a notable war is not an inherent claim to notability. According to Wikipedia's article on the American Revolutionary War, there were 20,000 American regular soldiers and 230,000 American militia who served in the Revolutionary War. Their achievements were collectively notable, but that does not mean we need to have articles about every single one of them. As Brianyoumans mentions, much of this article does not even pertain to Silas Baker personally, and the parts that do pertain to him have relatively little information about his experience in the war. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 08:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 12:25, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 12:25, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 12:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Userfy to ImnFLAOiC. -- I was the one who removed the PROD on this article in response to ImnFLAOiC's request not to delete it. -- I agree that the article as written does not meet wikipedia's notability policy but I'm concerned that ImnFLAOiC seems to have done considerable research, the article is excellently-referenced and there may well be a place for it in some future specialist Wiki. I also feel that ImnFLAOiC may have quite a bit of personal interest invested in this article and a straight deletion could well constitute biting a newbie.  All in all I feel that while the article should not appear in the main wikipedia article space, in this particular case I would not want to see it made completely inaccessible to ImnFLAOiC; so I suggest it be moved to his personal wikipedia space for the time being.-- S Marshall   Talk / Cont  16:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong delete Not-notable, barely about the subject. I cannot even see the claims of notability to survive speedy. ukexpat (talk) 19:27, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


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