Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Silver Eagle (Limey album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There's clearly no consensus to delete Limey (UK '70s band), but there's a broad consensus to not keep the album articles, so I shall redirect those to the band article. Before doing that, I will move the article to the more standard Limey (band).  A  Train talk 06:58, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Silver Eagle (Limey album)

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Fails WP:NALBUM. Discogs is not a reliable source and a WP:BEFORE search did not bring up anything that could help this pass the notability guidelines for albums. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 23:59, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm not seeing coverage for this release to suggest that it meets WP:NALBUM.  gongshow  talk  02:32, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Neither the band, nor either of their albums meet the standards of notability. Pinging the two previous contributors in light of the additional nominations -, - Cabayi (talk) 06:38, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Cabayi (talk) 06:40, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Cabayi (talk) 06:40, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Cabayi (talk) 06:42, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Limey (UK '70s band). Two albums through RCA. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:30, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Also look at the pedigree of members Engel and Kewley. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:22, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * could you please explain what you mean by their "pedigree"? Engel's most notable group was the New Seekers, but that was after he was in Limey, and well after the New Seekers' period of chart success (he was in the band from 1978 to 1982). As far as I know, he has never appeared on a chart hit with any group during his career. Kewley is slightly more notable, having been in the Q-Tips with Paul Young, and then co-writing songs with Young and playing keyboards on his first three solo albums. But I'm not sure that's enough for him to pass WP:MUSICBIO, and again, that was after he was in Limey. Richard3120 (talk) 12:09, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * that was a comment that it should be looked at, I hadn't had a full look. To expand on your comments. Before or after Limey is irrelevant. Kewley was notable enough to get his own entry in The Guinness encyclopedia of popular music, Colin Larkin, Guinness Pub., 1995 (reproduced here). Engel was also in (amongst others) Mandrake Paddel Steamer, also given an entry in The Guinness encyclopedia of popular music, "responsible for recording one of the most cherished singles of the psychedelic era". For information this has more on Engel (but is a primary, non independent source). Regardless they still satisfy WP:MUSIC with two albums through a BIG label. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:21, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks - that looks like it'll be enough to save the group's article, still need some work to justify the album articles (see below). Richard3120 (talk) 12:43, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep. !vote is for the band only. Unless reviews are found there is no point on keeping the album articles. Everything found so far worth covering can be in the bands article. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:08, 3 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment - As the nom, I support deleting the other articles added to this discussion. May as well kill three birds with one stone.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:45, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete, no sources whatsoever found for the band or albums. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 06:06, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete - meets A7 of the CSD criteria. There are no sources available to establish notability. Class 455  ( talk |stand clear of the doors!)  09:47, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Now has source that establishes notability through WP:MUSIC#5. Coverage will exist in UK music publications of the seventies, a dead tree look is needed to find them, not a cursory google glimpse. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:21, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look in the British Library next week in copies of NME, Melody Maker and Sounds - it's a little tricky establishing when the two albums were released, but I think they were in the last quarter of 1975 and first couple of months of 1977. I don't believe it's 100% certain they would have been reviewed, but there's a good chance. Richard3120 (talk) 12:43, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * "Silver Eagle" single looks like 11 Mar 1977. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:15, 3 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Appears to be more coverage in The Tapestry of Delights - The Comprehensive Guide to British Music of the Beat, R&B, Psychedelic and Progressive Eras 1963-1976, Vernon Joynson ISBN 1 899855 04 1. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:34, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep the band article, passes WP:NMUSIC criteria 5 Atlantic306 (talk) 16:22, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * And these sources will magically add themselves to the article overnight, right? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:38, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep The band, redirect the albums, and hang multiple AfD combinations. Nothing against the nom, but I see more confusion then gain in them. L3X1 (distænt write)  00:44, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * to be fair, I wasn't the one who added the others articles to this AfD.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:45, 9 October 2017 (UTC)


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