Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sima Abd Rabo


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Stifle (talk) 14:26, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Sima Abd Rabo

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Political advisor and activist who does not meet GNG.  Eostrix  (&#x1F989; hoot hoot&#x1F989;) 17:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Comment Several sources are not written in English, can more detail be provided about how the sourcing doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:BASIC? Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 19:54, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * A simple search shows this activist does not meet GNG or BASIC, however in regards to sources in the article (number refer to current revision 1004677177):
 * Interview in local newspaper on The Da Vinci Code she translated, so primary in nature of little significance.
 * Book jacket of Arabic edition of Imperial Hubris, she translated. Possible to verify that she translated it, but of no significance as a source.
 * Zenith (magazine) from 2020, page (short page), with profile and interview. Probably the best source of the bunch, but it still an interview and specialist publication.
 * Youtube video with 392 views in which she speaks.
 * Partner page of "Network of Democrats in the Arab World" at iri.org, doesn't even name her.
 * Article at Qantara.de, which is about the Gulf Monarchies and doesn't even mention her.
 * Homepage of "THE BAGHDAD POLICY CLUB", has her picture, name, position, and country all of one line.
 * Single sentence quote in alarab.co.uk
 * Piece written by Abd Rabo herself and posted at souriyat.org
 * BBC, which would be great, however it does not even mention her. The BBC piece covers the Lars Klevberg incident, but has nothing on Abd Rabo.
 * Open letter, posted at https://www.bellingcat.com/, in which Abd Rabo is one of hundreds of signatories.
 * Short quote of Abd Rabo at welt.de, in a very large piece not about her (she was elected the three-person spokesman body of the council that the piece is covering).
 * This zdf.de covers an activity involving the council, but doesn't mention Abd Rabo at all.
 * Post at souria11.org covering the appointment of three new spokepersons. Abd Rabo (and Mr. Ibrahim Shaheen) are thanked for their term that ended.
 * This post at rabbiscer.org does not mention her at all AFAICT. She might be present in one of the photos, that unfortunately do not have captions, or in one of the videos.
 * In summary, there is one semi-decent (though short and an interview) in Zenith (magazine). Everything else here is a combination of unreliable/unremarkable sources and not mentioning her at all or mentioning her very briefly. She has filled very minor political positions, and does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NPOL.-- Eostrix  (&#x1F989; hoot hoot&#x1F989;) 07:40, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Enos733 (talk) 00:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)  Comment As the author of the article I disagree. Regarding the post at rabbiscer.org, the reference pertains to the declaration in general. Here is the link to the organisation's post where SAR is mentioned. Wasn't sure if referencing facebook is a good idea. However the substance seems relevant to me. https://es-la.facebook.com/JewishDiplomaticCorps/posts/weremember-the-holocaust-to-build-a-future-free-of-antisemitism-xenophobia-and-a/2668779769836892/ Emarat Al-Youm might be a newspaper of little international relevance but it remains a serious source. Zenith is a reputable German magazine on West Asia and North Africa. The profile on SAR is not an interview, btw, but uses quotes. The Link to the Network of Arab Democrats does not reference SAR but the organisation itself. It is listed as a partner of the IRI. I see some of the points of Esotrix. However I do not see that this justifies to delete the article. It covers the life and activities of what appears to be a relevant Syrian woman and women's rights activist. JamalFaris 16 February 2021  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per Eostrix. Many unreliable sources, and many sources mentioning subject in passing, which does not constitute 'significant coverage'. Very little in terms of sourcing that establishes notability per WP:GNG. Bigpencils (talk) 07:13, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 06:00, 18 February 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Boldly relisting for a third time to try and reach an outcome.
 * Keep, including per WP:IAR and the points raised by JamalFaris; Abd Rabo is noted in the The Council of the Syrian Charter and Code of Conduct for Syrian Coexistence articles, so deletion of her article and the detailed background it provides seems to interfere with improving and maintaining Wikipedia. Beccaynr (talk) 03:35, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 13:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Proponents of keeping this page did not provide any reliable sources to support the article's notability, meanwhile Esotrix provided a thorough review of the quality of present sources. Kamataran (talk) 19:39, 7 March 2021 (UTC)


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