Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simiso Buthelezi


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Arbitrarily0  ( talk ) 07:28, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Simiso Buthelezi

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Non-notable boxer who died following a fight for a non-notable regional championship. He's only mentioned in reference to his death and almost certainly will not receive coverage for anything else. – 2 . O . Boxing  20:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC) Keep to remind people the dangers of boxing and out of respect for his life. There are way more articles to go after than this one.--2601:3C5:8200:97E0:8DDB:A685:D3EA:FA55 (talk) 20:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Boxing,  and South Africa.  2 . O . Boxing  20:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * They're not valid reasons to keep an article. See WP:NOTADVOCACY and WP:NOTMEMORIAL. – 2 . O . Boxing  22:15, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Keep. I approved the WP:AFCH submission based on the widespread international coverage that the subject received. A quick search reveals many more sources that are not used in the article, such as CNN in the USA, News24 in South Africa, TribuneIndia. I agree that the subject's career as a boxer is not notable, however, the guidelines at Notability (people) state "If, however, there is only enough information about one notable event related to the person, then the article should be titled specifically about that event, such as Steve Bartman incident". I would be OK with a rename (although I think it would be overly pedantic) but not a delete. Greenman (talk) 17:22, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Likewise re: "reminder": WP:NOTADVOCACY. Gnomatique (talk) 00:41, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:BLP1E would be the relevant policy here. The subject fails the three conditions for articles to generally avoid; he is covered only in relation to his death; this person will almost certainly remain a low-profile individual; the event wasn't significant. Unfortunately, deaths in boxing are quite common and all receive substantial short-term coverage. This one has received a bit more attention than most, but that is undoubtedly due to the video clip of the fight. – 2 . O . Boxing  18:29, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The second condition also states "In such cases, it is usually better to merge the information and redirect the person's name to the event article." Greenman (talk) 22:37, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * There is no event article, and it's unlikely there ever will be per WP:EVENT. – 2 . O . Boxing  23:12, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Seems like recentism, I agree with squared circle that the subject is receiving short term coverage because of the video clip, it is quite jarring to see in hindsight, but a WP:CRYSTALBALL would be required to prove his death will have more impact then the other deaths that occur from in ring competition.  ♡RAFAEL♡(talk) 20:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Certainly his death was tragic, but that doesn't make him WP notable. This is not the first, or likely last, boxing death and they all generate short term news and usually calls for banning boxing--but then the furor subsides and fades away (at least for the general public).  WP:BIO1E, WP:NOTMEMORIAL, and WP:NOTADVOCACY all apply.  He's not notable for anything else and the event was minor (on an encyclopedic level).  If something significant comes from his death, the article can be recreated. Papaursa (talk) 23:23, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


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