Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simon Bar Sinister (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Underdog characters. Randykitty (talk) 14:46, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Simon Bar Sinister
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"Biography" of a fictional character, written almost entirely in-universe with no reliably sourced evidence of real-world context for standalone notability. The only references being cited here at all are linguistic sources for the etymology and meaning of "bar sinister" as a standard English phrase, not sources about the character as a character. List of Underdog characters already exists, and nothing here demonstrates or sources a reason why Simon Bar Sinister would warrant getting spun off as a separate article topic. Bearcat (talk) 20:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 20:43, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 20:43, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:48, 27 November 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 16:47, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong delete. None of the references actually cover Simon Bar Sinister; thus the general notability guidelines are not met. Inexplicably, the first AfD 10 years ago Articles for deletion/Simon Bar Sinister resulted in a keep; however, I am not convinced any of the sources they propose are good enough, and clearly, they did not end up in the article. This topic is sufficiently covered in List of Underdog characters; so I would not mind a redirect to the appropriate section. BenKuykendall (talk) 18:30, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong delete - WP:OR due to the concerns of BenKuykendall. Kirbanzo (talk) 20:35, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Underdog_(TV_series). No need for deletion. Capt. Milokan (talk) 21:05, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * List_of_Underdog_characters would be a more appropriate redirection target. BenKuykendall (talk) 02:13, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Either one works for me! Capt. Milokan (talk) 21:28, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Redirect no justifications given for a stand-alone article, but the redirect targets look fine. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 21:52, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.