Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simon Bird (footballer)


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The result was   delete. Keep on Roby Monroe and Steve Reese. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 01:02, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Simon Bird (footballer)

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Article about a footballer hasn't played in a fully pro league and also fails WP:GNG. – Michael (talk) 20:24, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason. – Michael (talk) 20:27, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. – Michael (talk) 20:36, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. – Michael (talk) 20:38, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Does the Professional Arena soccer league not count? Footballgy (talk) 21:43, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No it does not. See WP:FPL. – Michael (talk) 21:53, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete all - fail WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 09:47, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:31, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep - The fact that the Professional Arena Soccer League is missing from the WP:FPL is an oversight in my opinion. These players almost certainly fail WP:GNG, and they fail NFOOTBALL as it stands, but I'm fairly sure they have played in a professional league - unless the name is completely misleading! (I'm aware this isn't the most in-depth vote ever, but) Lukeno94 (talk) 13:11, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The Professional Arena Soccer League isn't fully professional. As this article notes, each team has a very tight salary cap and all players in the league either have a second job or attends school. ★ Bald Zebra ★ talk 20:05, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Simon Bird and Roby Monroe Unless there is somehow proof that Simon Bird played at least one game for the either Forest, Mansfield Town or Lincoln City, which could be possible, on the what is down, he current fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. I don't see any help for Monroe! As for Steve Reese, I am not sure, does he count as he played top level football in Romania? But I am not sure as I see no stats for that. Needs more research before I pass judgement on him. Govvy (talk) 00:04, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete all - in the absence of reliable sources confirming the contrary, all three fails WP:NSPORT, and none of them have received sufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:04, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete All - Not notable. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 00:35, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Steve Reese - passes WP:NFOOTBALL as he has played in the Divizia A per this which is a fully pro league. If Roby Monroe is this Robert Monroe who played in the USL Second Division, then he also passes WP:NFOOTBALL but it's hard to tell if it's the same guy, and if we can't prove that its the same guy the article should be deleted. Simon Bird (footballer) has not played in a fully pro league, and fails WP:NFOOTBALL in addition WP:GNG and should be deleted. Mentoz86 (talk) 16:13, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This was messy, and I hope the closing admin understand what I meant. I also hope the nominator will think twice before bundling a nomination on three footballers with totally different claims of notability. Mentoz86 (talk) 16:13, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Bird: fails WP:NFOOTY and no evidence of enough media coverage to pass GNG. Keep Monroe: it is the same Robert Monroe as identified by Mentoz, so passes WP:NFOOTY. If anyone had the time and inclination to incorporate references into the article to upgrade from a half-line stub referenced to a dead link, I'd be more comfortable with the keep... Keep Reese: not only played in the Romanian top flight, but according to this issue of Soccer America, was the first American so to do, and had a couple of paras in the New York Times. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:31, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
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