Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simon Dutton (drug lord)


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The result was no consensus. Discussion that has occurred here regarding the article's title can continue on its talk page, if desired. North America1000 13:34, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Simon Dutton (drug lord)

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This man doesn't seem to meet notability standards. He doesn't seem to be a cocaine dealer of note. A Google search shows there a many more famous "Simon Duttons than him. Removing key search words related to those actors and sportsmen and then adding "cocaine" brought back less than 500 results, almost all related to his arrest. Esprit15d • talk • contribs 23:02, 25 January 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I haven't yet looked into this deeply enough to express a "keep" or "delete" opinion, but if this is kept a less sensational disambiguator than "drug lord" needs to be found. Phil Bridger (talk) 11:24, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Only known for one trial and no sustained coverage, therefore fails WP:CRIME. A £1.6 million drug trafficking business is hardly what you might call a drug lord. Hzh (talk) 15:28, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 00:39, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete not enough sustained coverage to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:03, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nomination.TH1980 (talk) 02:40, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I searched "Simon Dutton" + cocaine, he's been in the news for years, below is just a sampling of what I found. Ohter search terms would probably find other sources.
 * 2016 Manchester Evening News 'Most wanted' man who aimed to flood Greater Manchester's streets with cocaine is jailed
 * 2015 BBC Britain's most wanted criminals hunted in Spain
 * 2014 Greater Manchester News (scroll down) Revealed: the £2m illegal tobacco baron from
 * 2011 BBC Of 60 wanted people named by Operation Captura in the last five years, 46 have since been taken into custody. The other eight suspects named are: Simon Dutton, 34, from Bolton, wanted in connection with the importation of cocaine with a street value of £1.6m from Spain to north west England.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:36, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:45, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Run-of-the-mill criminal who's name pops up from time-to-time in the news.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 09:37, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per the sources provided by but rename.  I don't know if it's because of The Godfather and Scarface but I think of Al Capone type people when I hear "drug baron".  "[D]rug lord" is definitely an NPOV violation.  Perhaps "criminal" would be a better disambiguator?  I don't know if his crimes meet criminal notability guidelines, but the general notability guideline supersedes all subject-specific notability guidelines (except the one for academics for some reason).    SITH   (talk)   11:02, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:BEFORE anyone? Seriously I don't think one of the Most Wanted Men in Britain is really a run of the mill criminal! There are lots of media coverage and I think the article could easily be improved with the sources available on the web to pass WP:GNG. Govvy (talk) 14:12, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep The article is a stub, surely the lack of content has prompted the call for deletion, but given more content it should stay, as per the sources of Garlicolive (talk) 22:15, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * keep - per sources. Per WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 16:16, 14 February 2019 (UTC)


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