Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simon Peter Carruthers of Holmains, Chief of the Name and Arms of Carruthers


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The result was delete.  JGHowes   talk  01:16, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Simon Peter Carruthers of Holmains, Chief of the Name and Arms of Carruthers

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the family may be notable, but i see no reason for saying that he is, and there are no sources to support anything except his genealogy  DGG ( talk ) 21:06, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

I do not understand the concern. The Lord Lyon confirmed Simon Peter Carruthers of Holmains as ‘Chief of the Name and Arms of Carruthers in august 2019. This a legal statement which can be found here. His genealogy to hold the title was confirmed after 22 months and two court hearings.

http://courtofthelordlyon.scot/index_htm_files/CarruthersDecision.pdf


 * Delete per nom. The article's more about his family than it is about him, and what there is of the latter shows no notability. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:40, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
 * fwiw, we do have an article on the family: Clan Carruthers. It looks like it needs considerable editing, but they are notable as a family. DGG ( talk ) 01:47, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:19, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment, so no need for a "redirect" from say Simon Peter Carruthers to Clan Carruthers as a possible wikireader lookup? Coolabahapple (talk) 03:21, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * why would anyone outside the family think to look him up? We're not a directory.  DGG ( talk ) 06:38, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * agree, around 500 page views of the clan page in the past 30 days probably reflects this. Coolabahapple (talk) 07:11, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, WP:NOTINHERITED, and WP:BLP1E. It snows in Scotland. Bearian (talk) 20:09, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete this person is not individually notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:07, 16 November 2020 (UTC)


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