Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simon keller's giant tortoise


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was DELETE.  Rob e  rt  00:28, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Simon keller's giant tortoise
I cannot find any information about this on the web. The links provided are not related. Written by two anons as their first edits. Karol 09:14, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete, I imagine that this page is part serious part joke. The serious part is that that Simon Keller has probally used the example of beleiving that there is a giant tortorise that is the world/is god in orrder to show, reductio ad absurdum stylely, what he beleives to be the sillyness of Relativism. The silly part is presenting the article as if he really beleives it/ment it to be taken seriously. The article could be improved to take out the silly part and leave only the serious, however Simon Kellers use of silly examples to refute relativism is not exactly orriginal or notable as a particular example and none or his reasurch papersappear to be about it.--JK the unwise 09:27, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Not Delete Tortism is a serious example used by Keller on several occasions. Applying the Giant Tortoise to different aspects of philosophy is a practical way of illustrating that philosophy, as its principles also cover the desire and objective list theories, as well as Utilitarianism. It can be adapted to nearly any philosophical theory.--JetpackrocketbabyII 04:49, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
 * An understandable sentiment, considering that created the page. Dxco 10:50, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete per JK --Rogerd 04:46, 21 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Voting extended. Alphax &tau;&epsilon;&chi; 09:34, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * delete "Tortists believe the following goods are intrinsically good, desired by the tortoise, and will maximize happiness according to the tortoise. 1. Chocolate ice-cream 2. Kool-Aid 3. Counting blades of grass 4. Strawberry ice-cream, but less good than chocolate 5. Not drowning puppies" I think this one is self evident. Dxco 10:48, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as unverifiable. Googling 'Simon Keller' + Boston +tortism yields nothing. Eddie.willers 11:43, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per JK the unwise. -- Kjkolb 12:46, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per JK. MCB 23:27, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and JK. ",The master was an old Turtle&mdash;we used to call him Tortoise&mdash;' 'Why did you call him Tortoise, if he wasn't one?' Alice asked. 'We called him Tortoise because he taught us,' said the Mock Turtle angrily." Dpbsmith (talk) 23:52, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per JK. feydey 23:56, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.