Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SimpleSAMLphp


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The result was   delete. Stifle (talk) 19:34, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

SimpleSAMLphp

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Declined speedy for a PHP protocol. Not convinced of notability, most of what Google turned up was documentation from the software's producers and a review in someone's blog; no non-trivial, secondary sources. Google news turned up zero hits. Mister Senseless&trade; (Speak - Contributions) 05:40, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
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simpleSAMLphp is being used for some big federations: as an example, the Danish University Federation (Wayf) is completely implemented with simpleSAMLphp. Unfortunately, the web page of WAYF (https://www.wayf.dk/) doesn't say their implemented solution was simpleSAMLphp, wven though I heard on the Terena conferences that is (although you could consider that biased, coming from a simpleSAMLphp's developer).

Anyway, I found an interesting source: http://www.projectliberty.org/liberty/news_events/iddy_awards the Liberty Alliance (a well-established name, I'd say) gave the IDDY award to UNNINET for the implementation of simpleSAMLphp. I guess that's a good external source! I'll add some more info to the wiki. Again, I am just trying to help here, because I noticed that this article didn't exist and I thought I could create at least a little one to help people. Blink0gmailcom (talk) 14:17, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Nice job for finding that! Even if it is slightly biased, that is certainly a valid assertion of notability. If we can find a few more sources, I'll withdraw the AfD. Mister Senseless&trade; (Speak - Contributions) 14:54, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

- Actually it is not slightly biased. Liberty Alliance is a well-established name, completely separated from Feide (who developed simpleSAMLphp), so I don't agree that it's biased. What I said was biased was the claim that Wayf was done with simpleSAMLphp, since it comes from the talk of a simpleSAMLphp's developer at the Terena conference. I'll try adding more sources later like you suggested, but at the moment I am a bit busy! Blink0gmailcom (talk) 09:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC) -

http://saml.xml.org/wiki/saml-open-source-implementations

This page: https://www.wayf.dk/nyheder says: "UNINETT gets awards for simplesamlphp, the software that Wayf is based upon and participating in developing" in danish though.

https://spaces.internet2.edu/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=11484 - Fronter, one big e-learning platform is using simplesamlphp in hundres of installations.

A complete workshop held about simplesamlphp in australia: http://www.eresearch.edu.au/2008ws12

The danish government is reccomended simplesamlphp as one of three software packags to connect the national ID solution: http://www.softwareborsen.dk/projekter/softwarecenter/brugerstyring/oiosimplesamlphp and http://fugensolutions.com/danishgov.html

Nominated for European Identity Award 2008: http://www.kuppingercole.com/articles/eic_award_290408

simplesamlphp part of really large EU project GEANT: http://www.geant2.net/server/show/ConWebDoc.2879

Unique search string on google, gettings 1.5M hits: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=simplesamlphp&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreassolberg (talk • contribs) 00:54, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

- Thanks for the bust out Andreas :-) I was going to let you guys know I started your wiki entry, just so you would know and also so you could provide some more info, if you wanted. I just thought that simpleSAMLphp deserves a wiki entry ;-) When I have time I'll try integrating some of what you mentioned on the page, but I really don't have so much (you can say "any" actually) experience with editing wikipedia... Not that it's very hard, I can just copy the structure of some other entry, but still... Not quite sure what would be a good struct, maybe a "Prizes/Nominations" heading? I mean it's not common to have a wiki entry just listing the prizes and stuff, I guess some other info and that as a complement (and as good external sources Mr Senseless wants ;-). PS: Nice presentation at Terena Andreas! Blink0gmailcom (talk) 00:45, 22 November 2008 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  StarM  04:00, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete See wp: notability (by entering it into the search box) for wikipedia's guidelines. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:57, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge & redirect to SAML 2.0. No independent notability for this implementation, but the article about the protocol is currently lacking any mentions of products implementing it. So, the contents of this article is a welcome addition there. The IDDY industry award (also mentioned in Network World) is not sufficient in my view for separate article; the other projects that won an IDDY award don't have a Wikipedia article, and are unlikely to get one either. Pcap ping  09:27, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


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