Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sinhalese–Portuguese War


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:10, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Sinhalese–Portuguese War

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"Article" contains no useful information about the war it says to cover, just a list of battles The Banner talk 01:00, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * keep. Strange statement about "no useful information". I find it quite useful and verified that the war was indeed, and there are books sources to this end. - Altenmann >t 05:27, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep As per Altenmann.  Sinhelese–Portuguese War are series battle fought in Sri Lanka and are well sourced articles.This was red link hence created a disamg which linked the battles in the first place.This article is clearly sourceable.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 07:32, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * "The article is clearly sourceable" — so source it, please. Because I can't. This is neither a disambiguation page nor a proper article. To me, it looks like a WP:SYN to create an impression of a continuing, hundred-year long war (compare Campaignbox Sinhalese–Portuguese War, which should also be deleted), when it was in fact a series of very loosely connected uprisings and battles. This book actually synthesizes the situation much more accurately: "Then, as now, Ceylon was divided into two religious spheres, Sinhalese-Buddhist in the north and center, and Tamil-Hindu in the south. It was divided among a number of kingdoms and vassal states. These internal divisions helped perpetuate cleavages which outside powers were able to turn to their own profit. [...]". Even this newspaper article  used as source in one of articles is titled "Episodes of colonised history", and does not use "war" phrasing whatsoever. Merge into Portuguese Ceylon, which is now a stub, but has much better potential to describe the complex situation of the time than this WP:COATRACKy/WP:SYN posing as a dab page. No such user (talk) 11:05, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep but expand into an article, or format as a "List of events of the ..." and add sources. It's not a dab page. The term has been a link since July 2010 in Battle of Gannoruwa: has it been a red link all this time, or was there a previous deleted article, or is there a hyphen/dash problem? I looked at this article, half-expecting to see that the creator of the new dab page had also added the term recently to all three articles - it happens - so was reassured to find that this was not the case. It's been linked in Siege of Kotte (1557–58) since the article's creation in 2012, and in the third article this 2010 edit (same editor as above) changed a link from Sri Lankan–Portuguese War (which they'd added in 2009) to this one. I'm not sure what that all shows, but I do wonder if there's more of a history to this article/dab page than is apparent to a non-admin. Pam  D  15:26, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Clarification needed: was there one "war", or three? If there was only one, this page has no business being tagged as a "disambiguation" page, since it covers a single topic.  You wouldn't expect a Wikipedia page entitled "World War I" to be a disambiguation page saying that the term might refer to any of 175 different battles, as opposed to an overview of the entire war.  If there were three separate wars, why aren't there articles about any of them?  --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:05, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Can any of the keep voters please offer a proof that there was a war in the first place? So far, I've seen only an assertion that sources exist by Altenmann (accompanied by a WP:ITSUSEFUL), one "keep by Altenmann", and one rather honest "I don't know" by Pam. Clicking on google search for the term, above, comes completely fruitless. "It was a red link" is hardly an argument. No such user (talk) 22:07, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * There was 'a' war (of aggression, as you may guess), which I found by a simple google book search anyone can do. - Altenmann >t 16:19, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Link? The Banner talk 20:24, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I have been overlooking much of these articles over the years, to clarify the article would refer to the collective battles and conflicts between the Sinhalese and the Portuguese Empire.--Blackknight12 (talk) 11:42, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sri Lanka-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:44, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Portugal-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:44, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:44, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
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Speedy Keep although the article needs improvement, the reason given for deletion was not appropriately policy based. The article was no longer marked as a disambiguation page at the time the Afd request was made. If you would like to see sources, take a look at the Battle of Gannoruwa article, for example. Or take a look at The fatal history of Portuguese Ceylon; transition to Dutch rule by George D Winius. --Bejnar (talk) 09:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep as per article creator, has much potential to become a C class article very quickly, heaps of sources and refs to be found, see bibliography of Siege of Galle (1640) and refs in Battle of Gannoruwa.--Blackknight12 (talk) 11:42, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
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