Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sirc Michaels


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. If the great number of reliable sources demonstrating the subject's notability exist, they aren't listed here. All of the references were either from MySpace or short play notices posted in a local Amarillo paper, which fall short of the notability criteria. While Michaels may eventually gain some fame, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball - in other words, it's not our place to predict things of that nature. If more references can be found, perhaps this article can return. Tijuana Brass (talk) 03:00, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Sirc Michaels

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I am challenging the notability of this person based on the fact that only a local/regional newspaper has covered the aspects of his purported notability. Discussion welcomed. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC) 
 * Comment. Article Patrios should follow the fate of this article. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment The picture in the article of the article's subject is apparently the own work of the editor who created the article. This makes me think a conflict of interest may be coming into play. Handschuh-talk to me 04:07, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I added much of the content for the pages, including the picture. It is actually from the playwright's page. I was unsure how to handle the adding it. There is no 'conflict of interest', unless you count the fact that I am a fan of this playwright. There are plenty of articles out there about this person, and the newspapers are in a variety of states. I felt that I had already added enough to bulk up the references and someone could add more later. Though you may not have heard of this person, he has a following and is considered one of the prominent descendants of 'in-your-face' theatre in the United States. If I am not doing something right, then tell me. But I am not the only one who knows who this is. Cobaltbluetony, your original issues with the article had to do with references and links and so forth, which I have provided. You can find more at the Virginia Pilot, the Allentown Morning Call, the Examiner, the Observer, the Globe News, USA Today, and on and on. These range from national to regional to local papers. I just grabbed the easiest ones to snag online. I thought we were supposed to work together to get these pages tight. I guess what I am saying is - SOME HELP, please! Thanks. --Gonzodak 07:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Gonzodak but maybe someone who knows something about copyright should check out that picture. Handschuh-talk to me 09:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tikiwont (talk) 10:55, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * DELETE IT- You aren't going to get anyone but the source and his friends to contribute. Any bio from of that age that has an Early Years Section is simply introspective promotion from the source. Keep it on MySpace.---Iconoclast.Horizon (talk) 06:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment- About the picture - it came from his site. I was adding it to here and, while trying to figure out what the correct way to list it was, got sidetracked. Upon finishing other tasks I was performing at the same time, I posted the picture, which gives us the incorrect copyright info. It was sloppy on my part, which I apologize for, but now I am not sure how to fix it. As for 'early years', I just followed the format of all other bios on here. If I did something format-wise wrong with the page, please let me know or please fix it. --Gonzodak (talk) 04:25, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


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