Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sivasailam


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The result was keep as geographic places such as villages are almost always kept so unless this has further issues needing attention, it can be mentioned later but this seems acceptable for now. (NAC). SwisterTwister  talk  06:26, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Sivasailam

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The article has no valid source and no EV Ant a n O 14:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete: It is unclear whether this article is meant to be about a village or a temple. It does not establish the notability of either. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:34, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep villages are inherently notable per WP:GEOLAND. The simplest Google search shows a map, a postal code, "Sivasailam, Tamil Nadu 627412, India", and more about the village. It exists so passes the threshold, the above folks fail utterly to understand policy here and haven't even bothered to look before they leaped. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:36, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I am aware that, as WP:GEOLAND says, "legally recognized places are typically considered notable". But are we sure this is a legally recognized place? According to this page, the Sivasailam post office is just one of 5 post offices which share the postal code you've mentioned above. Further, it suggests that it is within the legal municipality (Town/Taluk) of Tirunelveli. On the other hand, our article says it is within the Ambasamudram Taluk. I've got no idea whether this page is reliable, but it says it is within Kadayam Taluk. Some other pages say that also.
 * So could this village fall into the second category of "Populated places without legal recognition"? AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:59, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
 * If you look at Tehsil, where Taluk redirects, you'll see that Taluk is an administrative subdivision that contains cities, towns, villages. As would be a county in the United States or a kreis in Germany. That doesn't bear upon whether anything is legally recognized. The fact that the postal service of India determined that a postal code is useable by more than one location, doesn't deny that the postal service (an official organ of the Indian government) recognizes this place as "real" such that mail addressed to it will (presumably) be deliverable. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:31, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Moreover, if you look at the Indian census bureau plugging in the state of Tamil Nadu, the district of Tirunelveli, the subdistrict=taluk of Ambasamudran and hit enter, you'll get a list of the villages recognized by the Indian government for census purposes (similar to US's Census designated places probably). In any event, at unique village code 642940 you find Sivasaailam, undoubtedly the same place with a spelling variation. If we need to move the article to the official English-language spelling (which I gather is transliterated from Hindi, rather than the state language of Tamil) then do so, but in no event delete this real place. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:38, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:07, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. Settlements are notable, the census reference in the article checks out and a search for the usual sources for Indian villages confirm its existence. • Gene93k (talk) 03:19, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment. Now the article has been modified as EV and it seems to me notable work. --Ant a n O 04:10, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


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