Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Skye Celine Baker


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. The discussion below has demonstrated that there is significant coverage in reliable sources about Skye Celine Baker, but opinion is split as to how WP:BLP1E and WP:ROUTINE should apply in this case, and on whether Miss Earth Guam should be considered a "country" / "national level" competition. Deryck C. 18:06, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Skye Celine Baker

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:ONEEVENT (just a preliminary round and the main event of the same cycle) The Banner talk 13:20, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
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 * Strong Keep. The article is notable in accordance to WP:GNG. Baker won the pageant in the Territory of Guam with television news in Guam and supported by third party acceptable sources. The Pacific News Center, a news agency reported after she entered the semifinal cut in the Miss Earth 2015: "Miss Earth Guam Makes History, Placing in the Top 16". In fact, it's the first semifinal placement in the Big Four international beauty pageants after 28 years (the last semifinal placement: Miss World 1987). She also made news from different news agencies in Guam: PNC TV News Miss Earth Guam 2015, TV14 Miss Earth crowned at Sheraton, Pacific News Center Miss Earth Guam Makes History…, Guam Daily Post Wong, Baker crowned as Miss Earth Guam 2014, 2015, Kuam News Miss Earth Guam Skye Baker places in top 16, Kuam News Miss Earth crowned at Sheraton--Richie Campbell (talk) 04:04, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Guam is not a country or even a state, it's an island with 171,000 people. This is just a routine event that receives WP:ROUTINE coverage "Routine events such as sports matches, film premieres, press conferences etc. may be better covered as part of another article, if at all. ". Legacypac (talk) 09:34, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * keep per richie Foreach n everyday (talk) 19:41, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge – to Miss Earth Guam § Annual competitions. Most coverage is about her attaining the crown for 2015 Miss Earth Guam, so the article may not qualify at this time per WP:BLP1E. However, the subject is barely mentioned at the merge target, and a merge would enhance and improve the Miss Earth Guam article as per WP:PRESERVE. North America1000 03:07, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Miss Earth _Guam. Plausible redirect, cheap, merge possible. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:06, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep All: The subject here is a person and not Guam. Skye won in the national pageant legitimately and has credible sources. Artchino (talk) 15:09, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:32, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
 * A person that fails WP:NMODEL. Further Guam is not a country. Legacypac (talk) 09:21, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Further Comment- The article should be kept because she won a well-known pageant in the Territory of Guam with third party reliable sources and her placement in the international level is Guam's first after 28 years in the Big Four pageants. Her feat has been featured and "worthy of notice" in the mainstream media in Guam. The person has multiple independent sources presented in my initial comment above to demonstrate notability.--Richie Campbell (talk) 16:45, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It would indeed be great news for her hometown, but any info from elsewhere? The Banner talk 19:35, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   13:03, 13 January 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.