Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Skye Thorstenson


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was DELETE. -Splash talk 00:56, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Skye Thorstenson and The Elk Hotel
First of all, see Gunk Land -- Gunk land is an obvious hoax.

Skye Thorstenson and Elk Hotel, which is "still in production, scheduled for release 2005", are listed on IMDb, but I'm starting to doubt whether IMDb is reliable in this instance, since Skye Thorstenson and/or his collaborators like to submit hoaxes to Internet websites.

Anyway, even if it was actually "released", it still isn't notable just because there is an IMDb entry for it. The first google hit for "elk hotel" (in quotes) is a consumer review for Best Western Mountain Lodge at Banner Elk. The only related hits are Thorstenson's website and Wikipedia.

I strongly believe the following users are Skye Thorstenson and/or his collaborators. The domain gunkland.com is registered to Skye Thorstenson (since I stated this on afd/Gunk_Land, he has hidden the whois data via domainsbyproxy.com). He/they have vandalized AFD pages: alterning my signed comments, signing incorrect usernames, removing 'disputed' tags, obvious lying ("thanks for the lead to IMDB" even though he already wrote a misleading link to IMDB).


 * (vandalized AFD pages)
 * (created Gunk Land, same user as 69.107.132.236)
 * (Thorstenson's website is lostheadfactory.com)
 * (vandalized AFD pages)
 * (created Gunk Land, same user as 69.107.132.236)
 * (Thorstenson's website is lostheadfactory.com)

These users are the sole non-cleanup editors of Skye Thorstenson, The Elk Hotel, Gunk Land. (Gunk Land has been deleted. &mdash;Quarl (talk) 2005-12-30 23:56Z  )

If indeed they are Thorstenson, these articles also violate WP:AUTO.

The meta tags for the gunkland.com webpage were "The Elk Hotel, Elk Hotel, theelkhotel, Film, Opera, San Francisco, Skye Thorstenson, Daniel Paul Bates, Veronica Klaus, Mara Luthane" until Thorstenson saw that comment and changed it.

Skye Thorstenson is now mostly a social commentary revealing the motive for creating hoaxes.

Mister Skye, if you're reading this, please try your hoaxes outside of Wikipedia. See Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point.

Delete --Quarl 08:01, 26 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. P.S. The sockpuppets of the hoax author can be identifieid by atrocious overuse of smart-sounding adjectives in his volumptious comments. Flyboy Will 08:43, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete both per nomination. - squibix 14:28, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. - FrancisTyers 15:43, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and submit this to WP:AN/I so they can keep on alert for these vandals. -- Antaeus Feldspar 16:59, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment please refer to Gunk land articles for deletion as for The Elk Hotel - I didn't add it to this site - but it is how i found this site via google. -- lostheadfactory 16:59, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I didn't add the elk hotel page - i was quite flattered someone did. I'm surprised you can't verify this via IP address imprint. I did add my bio info page as i figured it was fine since someone added a page with my film on it (at the time i wasn't aware of vanity posts). & Thank you for the apology quarl. Internet anonymity does bring out uncivil social interactions in people and everyone is susceptable to it. I was sincerely trying to be good natured and foolish with my gunk article. --lostheadfactory 23:42, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Based on the contribution history and your history of lying in AFDs I still think you created those articles. --Quarl 23:31, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * The two articles Skye Thorstenson and The Elk Hotel were created by the same person, at least someone using the same computer -- admitting creating Skye Thorstenson is also admitting creating The Elk Hotel. It's not important whether you created them though; what's important is whether Skye Thorstenson is important.  If your articles end up being deleted, you're welcome to keep them on your user page.  --Quarl 20:39, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I was taken in by the hoax (because of the IMDB entry) and worked on wikifying the article. Delete. Bluewave 11:23, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. DTompkins 19:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. This stub is too small, and it constitutes as a vanity page. --MolloyWatt 20:31, 3 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.