Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Slam recipe


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Ignoring SPA votes, consensus is to delete. tedder (talk) 06:11, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Slam recipe

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Non-notable neologism. Plus Wikipedia is not a cookbook. Mr. Vernon (talk) 00:24, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

A slam is not a Non-notable neologism or a slang term, it is in fact well known in the U.S. prison system and this page was not intended to be a cooking guide. It is here to document a unique kind of food and to share its existence with the world. There is a lack of printed articles on slams but that is probably due to the nature of slams and where they come from. Meaning not many famous or paid authors care about what people eat in prison or what poor people eat on a budget. This does not mean that they are not note worthy. Many inmates in the U.S. prison system and many families outside of prison know about and enjoy slams on a regular basis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biscuitbread (talk • contribs) 02:44, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 15:47, 2 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. I can't find any sources to back this up. Fences  &amp;  Windows  22:16, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Here is a slam reference --Biscuitbread (talk16:48,3 September 2009 (UTC)

keep. I have heard many people refer to slams. It is a part of pop culture. Some things are generally only spoken about and not generally typed or written about. That doesn't mean they aren't noteworthy! Isn't part of wikipedia's purpose to explain things like this?Hansmantis (talk) 01:07, 11 September 2009 (UTC) — Hansmantis (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Defining pop culture is what Urban Dictionary does. An entry in Wiktionary could be an alternative. Wikipedia has inclusion criteria, and they require a topic to be covered in multiple reliable sources. Fences  &amp;  Windows  10:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Here is a post about a slam on a forum dated 4/13/2008 from a poster named Morph99  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biscuitbread (talk • contribs) 16:56, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Forum posts are not reliable sources. Wuh  Wuz  Dat  17:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I've indented your second "Keep" recommendation; everyone who participates at AFD only gets to have one recommendation at a time; they may change it later, if they wish, however. I also removed what looked to be a duplicate signature from your earlier post. Best, UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 17:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete, per nom. Wuh  Wuz  Dat  17:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Here is another forum post dated7/21/2009  --Biscuitbread (talk) 16:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Here is another forum post mentioning a slam.  Forums may not be reliable resources but I think several mentions in forums should be sufficient evidence that slams are in fact well known in the prison systems and some people interested in prison culture may find interest in this unique food that was invented from prison commissary food  --Biscuitbread (talk) 16:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Here is another reference to a slam  --Biscuitbread (talk) 16:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.29.68.154 (talk)


 * Keep. Here is another reference to a slam on a notable cooking site  --65.29.68.154 (talk) 22:23, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Here is another reference to a slam recipe on a notable website  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.29.68.154 (talk) 22:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Here is another reference to a slam recipe on a cooking website   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.29.68.154 (talk) 22:36, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Here is a reference to a slam recipe on another  cooking website --Biscuitbread (talk) 22:58, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Here is another forum post reference to a slam  --Biscuitbread (talk) 23:18, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Here is another forum post reference to a slam   --Biscuitbread (talk) 23:24, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Here is another slam recipe on a notable cooking website  --Biscuitbread (talk) 23:29, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I've indented and unbolded your third and fourth "Keep" recommendations. As UltraExactZZ correctly mentions above, each commenter in a deletion discussion gets to make only a single recommendation. Thryduulf (talk) 20:20, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, this is not a vote, this is a discussion. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 06:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Biscuitbread, if you wish to comment further, you can put Comment instead of Keep; it's clear what your recommendation is. Thanks! UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 12:23, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete for lack of sources. I'll look at some of the sources posted above; however, right off the bat, Twitter and forum posts are not reliable sources, for the simple fact that someone could go to multiple forums, post about something, and then use those posts as a resource to post the information. Generally, sources are reliable only if they have some editorial control (as with a newspaper) or are authoritative on the subject (an Actor's Blog would be reliable in an article, to reference a statement made by that actor, for example). Many recipe websites and databases include user submitted recipes, which would undermine their use as reliable, independent sources under our policy. Even if a recipe website is reliable, it does nothing more than document the existance of the Slam Recipe, which no one has disputed. The issue here is whether the slam recipe is notable; are there multiple newspaper-style articles from reliable, independent sources that discuss the Slam Recipe? UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 12:23, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.