Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Slave New World


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep, nomination has been withdrawn after a reference was produced showing the song has charted. This after both delete opinions had been made and appears that it would have addressed their concerns. Davewild (talk) 22:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Slave New World

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individual song fails WP:MUSIC, lacking notable cutural significance or appearance on charts - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 13:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: Billboard.com and Allmusic.com were consulted to locate singles charting, but both failed to indicate any such appearances. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 14:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Fails WP:N due to a lack of sources.  --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 14:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete for me, having a music video for a song makes the song notable, but since I found nothing charted for the band on Billboard, then it does indeed fail WP:MUSIC. ArcAngel (talk) 14:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

"for me, having a music video for a song makes the song notable, but since I found nothing charted for the band on Billboard"

Magnum valentino (talk) 17:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)Try the UK charts. It has a music video, and by your criteria is thus notable. Say someone saw the video but didn't know the title, if they checked this page it might shed some light on their situation. This page is just as valid as every other singles page. At least I'm contributing something, rather than scouring the internet looking for something to do, such as deleting things from Wikipedia, which benefits absolutely no-one, rather than the alternate which has potential benefits.


 * That would be his personal view, not Wikipedia's guidelines. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 17:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Magnum valentino (talk) 21:26, 14 March 2008 (UTC)No no no no no, it is not my opinion, it did chart in the UK, it reached number 45/6. WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT!
 * Please remain calm. If you could give a link to a site which states as much, you should be able to build a good keep consensus.  --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 21:37, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Magnum valentino (talk) 12:15, 15 March 2008 (UTC)The following link shows the Chart positions of a few Sepultura singles Hopefully this will end this debate once anf for all, but I would also like to point out that this song is one of the band's most enduring songs and a classic metal staple of the 1990s. Please bear in mind that this is not a page for in indiviudal song, but rather an article about a genuine release, a CD and vinyl single which DID have a music video and DID chart, so those previous arguments to the contrary should be ignored.

http://www.rockdetector.com/discography,7880.sm?type=SinglesEPS —Preceding unsigned comment added by Magnum valentino (talk • contribs) 12:15, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The Guinness Book of British Hit Singles and Albums (18th edition) lists this single as having reached number 46 in the Official UK Singles Chart........ ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Magnum valentino (talk) 14:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)Thanks Chris. I'm removing the deletion template now seeing as previous conditions have been proved false.
 * As stated on the AfD template, you are not permitted to do that, so I have restored the template. The AfD discussion must be permitted to run to its conclusion ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Magnum valentino (talk) 17:46, 20 March 2008 (UTC)Stupidly I never thought to update the page with the link to the chart page! Will doing so remove the deletion page?


 * Only a final consensus of keep will result in the template being removed by the closing administrator.
 * The link provided above does not verify any charting. However, is there a way to link to " The Guinness Book of British Hit Singles and Albums (18th edition) "?  This alone may substatniate minimum notability. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 17:53, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Magnum valentino (talk) 17:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)The following website also confirms this, though I couldn't find any links to the latest book.

http://www.polyhex.com/music/chartruns/chartruns.php


 * Withdrawal nomination by nominator. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 18:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.