Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Slavic Chorale


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The result was   delete. Sanya3, please ask if you would like the text userfied so that you can work on it. Black Kite (talk) 09:58, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Slavic Chorale

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Non-notable chorale lacking GHits and GNEWS of substance. Article references are minor mentions or listings. Appears to fail WP:NMUSIC. red dog six (talk) 16:45, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Definitely keep. Notable choir, giving multiple concerts to thousands of people. Official concert description by an independent concert hall is independent and reliable. If you are doubting the quality of performance or the number of people in attendance, just watch the external link provided.--Sanya3 (talk) 01:03, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment- Just because something is popular in the real world does not make it notable by Wikipeda standards. Please review WP:NMUSIC and tell us how the group meets the standards for notability. red dog six  (talk) 18:04, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
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 * It meets criteria 1, 4 and 7. I will try to find better sources soon.--Sanya3 (talk) 02:08, 18 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 04:25, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Maybe a case of WP:TOOSOON; the chorale is only three years old. I'm sure it is popular and people enjoy it, but the criterion for an article here is significant coverage by independent reliable sources, and I couldn't find ANY coverage at Google News Archive. A sentence could be added to the article Sacramento, California but I would not advise a redirect; the name is too generic. --MelanieN (talk) 00:14, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The references are there. I have found a link to a Fox 40 video from Sacramento. A Slavic Chorale concert is covered in the second half of the video. --Sanya3 (talk) 03:58, 2 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete If it meets NMUSIC, it needs the sources to prove it. I also looked around for a while, but found nothing. If solid sources exist off-line, they still need to be added. Grayfell (talk) 02:28, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * There are print sources as well, for example there were several articles in the Slavic Observer. It is a Russian-language source, so I am not sure how to quote it. Do I just translate the title or give the original? I also found this review of their Rachmaninov concert on October 26, 2013.--Sanya3 (talk) 03:58, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Here is an article from the Russian magazine "International Affairs" covering the recent Rachmaninov concert: http://interaffairs.ru/read.php?item=10166
 * I just did a web search for "Slavic Observer" and the first result was this Wikipedia article, so I'm reluctant to accept it as being a significant source. Do you have any verifiable info on how significant this newspaper is? The Sacramento Choral Calendar link is extremely specific in focus. It's hard to imagine that such a website wouldn't have info on this chorale. International Affairs is a news-organ of the Russian state. That wouldn't matter, except that the concert was apparently partly funded by the Russian Consulate? That's what it looks like, anyway. Beyond that, the article is mostly a letter from one of the organizers of the concert. It's basically a press-release, and is too WP:PRIMARY to be useful, in my opinion. The video link above is mostly about the mansion that a particular concert was held at, and is otherwise a concert-listing on a local morning news show. Grayfell (talk) 05:16, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
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