Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Slow glass

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 13:16, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

Slow glass
Delete. Three reasons - first, I can find no evidence that the term 'slow glass' is commonly used in scientific literature as a name for BEC. The physics categorisation is therefore invalid. Secondly, the article is currently inaccurate. The concept of slow glass was specifically not that of a BEC - rather, it was a real piece of glass through which photons travelled by a spiral trajectory, increasing the distance they had to go. Thirdly, I don't think a device in a short story really needs an article of its own, especially when the entry for the short story itself is only a one-liner disambig.--Fangz 21:45, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * This nomination was not linked from the VfD logs; I have linked it to today's log. No vote. --cesarb 01:23, 15 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep but drastically rewrite. If the term is being used for a BEC, then this nickname has come about because of Shaw's stories (plural), not the other way round. The concept of slow glass is widely used in science fiction. For the record, the novel "Other days, other eyes" was based on four different slow glass stories ("The light of other days", "Burden of Proof", "A Dome of Many-Coloured Glass" and "Other days, other eyes"), and a later novel by Arthur C Clarke and Stephen baxter (also confusingly titled "The light of other days") also made use of the concept, as have Marvel Comics (with "Sandson O. Tyme and Earth-Slow Glass". Grutness...  wha?  01:46, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, cleanup and expand. The concept dates back to sci fi novels in the late 1960s and Shaw's book Other Days, Other Eyes (1972). Megan1967 04:15, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think the relationship of Shaw's slow glass to the ideas of Bose and Einstein is  at best tangential, but the former is one of the classic inventions of hard SF. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 05:37, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Reasons cited by others above.  --Unfocused 05:58, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Google test of <"slow glass" Bose-Einstein condensate> gives 65 hits. -MarSch 13:11, 15 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep, cleanup and expand Rangek 04:32, 2005 May 16 (UTC)
 * Keep, not well known, but important SF concept 66.94.94.154 12:27, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete I liked the story, but this doesn't get it's own article. We already cover BEC. Gmaxwell 06:19, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge, then? Radiant_* 13:32, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I see no evidence that the physicists are using this term, but in SF it's spread beyond Shaw. Kumquat 09:02, 18 May 2005 (UTC)


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