Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smash David


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The result was delete. Jujutacular (talk) 03:02, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Smash David

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I've attempted to clean up this article, however, it fails WP:BIO, with little depth of coverage in reliable sources. Most sources cited are one line mentions. Also, several of the sources which had been added to the article, and which I removed in the clean up, were just padding; with no mention of Smash David in the cited articles. The large table entitled "Production discography" is lacking in reliable sources. Completely fails WP:MUSICBIO. Magnolia677 (talk) 03:19, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete Needs sources (noting that trivial ones were removed by Magnolia677). What's left is the failed assertion that the subject is notable by association. ShelbyMarion (talk) 16:40, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as seems to pass criteria 2 of WP:NMUSIC of having his works chart, there are sources for his works but not for personal info so that would need to be removed until it can be referenced.Atlantic306 (talk) 17:51, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Which work charted? Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 20:45, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Agreeing with Atlantic306. Sources (copy and paste, links have unusual characters in them, so they don't appear right):

http://www.billboard.com/biz/search/charts?f[0]=ts_chart_artistname%3AKhalid&f[1]=ss_bb_type%3Achart_item&type=2&artist=Khalid

http://www.billboard.com/biz/search/charts?f[0]=ts_chart_artistname%3AKid%20Ink&f[1]=ss_chart_search_title%3A%2ANasty%2A&f[2]=ss_bb_type%3Achart_item&type=1&artist=Kid%20Ink&title=Nasty

http://www.billboard.com/biz/search/charts?f[0]=ts_chart_artistname%3AZoey%20Dollaz&f[1]=ss_bb_type%3Achart_item&type=2&artist=Zoey%20Dollaz

http://www.billboard.com/biz/search/charts?f[0]=ts_chart_artistname%3ADeJ%20Loaf&f[1]=ss_chart_search_title%3A%2A%23AndSeeThatsTheThing%2A&f[2]=ss_bb_type%3Achart_item&type=1&artist=DeJ%20Loaf&title=%23AndSeeThatsTheThing

Thank you. Xboxmanwar (talk) 21:51, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


 * None of the links mention David Smash. A search for David smash on Billboard brings back nothing.  Magnolia677 (talk) 23:39, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Magnolia677 - First of all, his name is Smash David, not David Smash, and second of all, have some common sense, I was listing the sources of the singles he composed/written/record produced, in response to Atlantic306, since he didn't list the sources, if you want to see his credits for all those listed singles above, well here you go:


 * David's credits proof on Location by Khalid


 * David's credits proof on Nasty by Kid Ink featuring Jeremih & Spice


 * David's credits proof on Puff Daddy & The Family - Blow a Check (Bad Boy Remix) featuring Zoey Dollaz & French Montana
 * (He produced Zoey Dollaz's original single, Blow a Check, which he gets producer credits on, and so he gets producer credits on the Bad Boy Remix too.)


 * David's credits proof on Been On My Grind by Dej Loaf
 * (Even through he was credited on that song, the extended play the song was on, #AndSeeThatsTheThing - EP was charting on the Billboard 200, as I have shown already before in the list of links I have provided before all this, and David's song was on that EP, 02. Been On My Grind.)


 * There's all the proof you need, also, on the the Been On My Grind link I have provided above, you will see his real full name, since you need it for proof on his name. Thank you. Xboxmanwar (talk) 14:27, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Music1201  talk  01:28, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete ..... Please don't "smash" me, Anyway no evidence of notability, Fails NMUSIC & GNG. – Davey 2010 Talk 18:14, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Davey2010 Can you explain how this article fails those two guidelines please? Also NMUSIC isn't even a guideline. Thanks. Xboxmanwar (talk) 23:23, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment Note to Xboxmanwar. No one is challenging that Smash David has credits on a number of tracks and/or artists that meet notability requirements. You have adequately provided links that confirm that. The point you are apparently missing is the wording in WP guidelines: "May be notable if..." The key word is "may..." This means that to simply meet the criteria is a start, but not an automatic qualifier. The weakness in this article is the absence of independent, third party evidence that explains why Smash David's credits contribute to the notability of these recordings and/or artists. If such references exists, please provide it. I voted Delete earlier but would change it if you provided proof from reliable, non-trivial sources. In absence of that all that is left is your assertion that Smash David deserves a wikipedia article based on two flaws: because he exists (see WP:EDPN) and because he is associated with wiki notability (see WP:INHERITED.) ShelbyMarion (talk) 14:36, 19 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails GNG by a mile and doesn't pass NMUSIC as well. Sorry, but I need proof that the artist is actually notable for the work - and no soundcloud links don't count, neither does a youtube video which makes no mention of the subject and another youtube video which is "not available" and uploaded by a random user. The links above seriously do not convince me. The NMUSIC doesn't mention anything about producers and in this case we hardly have any information about him. I might have considered if some of the works were really prominent, but that is not the case here either. A clear delete. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 01:59, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as quite clear there's both no substantial coverage and the only claims there are....is other people's name. Nothing amounting to his own convincing notability. SwisterTwister   talk  04:50, 27 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete The above discussion has demonstrated that there is no evidence that this artist has had music on a national chart, and I cannot find any evidence that he meets other criteria of NMUSIC, or GNG. Vanamonde (talk) 11:07, 1 August 2016 (UTC)


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