Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smiley (singer)


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The result was keep (non-admin closure) --Jakob (talk)  14:09, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Smiley (singer)

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I see no evidence that this article satisfied WP:GNG, WP:MUSICBIO, WP:BIO or any related policy. The "sources" presented manifestly fail the test set by WP:RS. We have:


 * A glowing puff piece from MTV, in the form of "10 things you didn't know about Smiley"
 * A press release
 * A directory entry

The article makes claims that, were they borne out by reliable sources, might indicate notability. However, before those claims can even be considered, they do need to be substantiated by "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject", something that plainly has yet to occur. - Biruitorul Talk 02:42, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 05:05, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 05:05, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Strong keep: Subject has been "Best Act of Romania" during MTV Europe Music Awards in 2013 and was nominated several times in earlier years. Also long standing artist with the popular Simplu as their lead singer. He is also one of four coaches in the Romanian version of The Voice called Vocea României for all three seasons of the Romanian series thus far and has won with his contestant Ştefan Stan in season 1. Clearly a notable Romanian artist. werldwayd (talk) 06:39, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You can make whatever claims you want about this individual. As long as they aren't substantiated by significant coverage in reliable sources, they're meaningless for our purposes. Once that substantiation occurs, only then we can think about whether anything in his career makes him eligible for inclusion under WP:MUSICBIO points 2-12. For now, nothing you say is confirmed by any source even remotely acceptable under WP:RS or WP:V. - Biruitorul Talk 14:01, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep as above Won "Best Act of Romania" at the MTV EMA's so thus is notable. →Davey 2010→  →Talk to me!→  22:13, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I have also added many references to alleviate concerns by colleague Biruitorul. Please take these amendments into consideration before commenting as they came after his legitimate notes. Wikipedia is a learning process even for long-established editors like me. werldwayd (talk) 23:39, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ......I do take amendments into consideration before voting, Despite his note I still believe being in the EMA's is notable, and I totally agree WP is a learning curve for everyone I think. →Davey 2010→  →Talk to me!→  23:46, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, j⚛e deckertalk 19:07, 26 May 2014 (UTC)




 * Keep per Davey and WerldwaydAdamh4 (talk) 14:19, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep but Rename to Smiley (Romanian singer) as there are a number of other, more notable, singers on Wikipedia known as "Smiley". Tris2000 (talk) 14:57, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.