Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smintair (3rd nomination)


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The result was   delete. The result was delete. If someone else wants to try to create an article about the "founder", they are welcome to do so, but they'll need more sources than are in this article to do it. If someone wants this usefied for reference, let me know and I will do so. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:24, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Smintair
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Still not notable, although well covered in the press at the time it was just a spike caused by the intention to start an airline, appears have been to make a pro-smoking point and not a serious attempt at a real airline. So really NOTNEWS and just not notable. MilborneOne (talk) 20:01, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete, as per WP:CRYSTAL, Wikipedia is not a collection of product announcements and rumors. And all there is to say about Smintair comes from statements by Alexander Schoppmann (go ahead, create that article, and mention Smintair there if you think he is notable). This was taken up by BBC News, the New York Times, CNN, The Washington Post and others. But have a closer look at these articles: They are just reproducing a series of quotes by Schoppmann and content copied from his website. In my opinion, this can not be considered as significant coverage per WP:CORPDEPTH, as neither of these news outlets put any effort in own journalistic research/analysis work concerning Smintair itself. It is nearly certain that with a good self-marketing, such a strange business proposal will get quite some media attention. But still, it remains a flash in the pan, without any long-lasting impact. I think Smintair should not be considered as a company (because it has never been properly established as such), but as an event: Alexander Schoppmann once created a website and spoke to some press guys. As there has not been any continued coverage and lasting impact, it therefore fails notability per WP:LASTING and WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE. --FoxyOrange (talk) 21:58, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
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 * Rename and rescope to Alexander Schoppmann, who seems likely to clear the notability bar; this proposed airline does not. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:24, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
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