Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smoky Joe's


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. While numerically this would appear to be a keep close, there is disagreement on whether or not the sources presented in this discussion satisfy WP:CORPDEPTH. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:27, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Smoky Joe's

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A Google search didn't turn up evidence of notability WP:COMPANY. Their website wasn't working as of the time of this nomination. I am One of Many (talk) 06:13, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. I've tagged it for a speedy as blatant promotion, but there are multiple issues with the page aside from that fact. For a store that's supposed to have been very popular and trendsetting, I was unable to find anything in-depth that talks about the store or anything that backs up the various claims to notability. I see brief mentions, but not really anything to show that it's notable enough to merit its own article. At most this could be mentioned in the article for Maxwell Street and have a redirect entitled "Smoky Joe's (clothing store)" redirect there. But an individual article? No. The most I found are brief, trivial mentions in relation to other things (predominantly Maxwell Street itself) and multiple false positives for the other things called Smoky Joe's. It doesn't help that this seems to have been an overly blatant attempt by the store owners to promote their website via Wikipedia. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   10:12, 24 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Note: I have declined the speedy deletion, as there are non-promotional versions in the article's history. Speedy deletion is normally not appropriate if the problem can be solved by reverting to an earlier version. I have no opinion, however, as to whether the subject is notable. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:20, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep When I add Chicago to the google books search term it seems clear.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:19, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:06, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:06, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:06, 24 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Leaning Keep per sources available on the internet, the topic appears to just meet WP:CORPDEPTH. Source examples include:, . Those with mentions include , , (others with mentions are available). Afterward, perhaps a merge to Maxwell Street may be in order. Northamerica1000(talk) 14:50, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mediran  ( t  •  c ) 02:01, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 03:07, 10 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Sources provided here show the notability of this store, plus its importance in cultural history. BigJim707 (talk) 05:39, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep A google search brings up various mentions in books, news paper articles and magazines of that era. FurrySings (talk) 13:01, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment So far, I'm not seeing WP:CORPDEPTH. There are several references to Smokey Joe's, but none that I have seen appear to rise above incidental.  This  as referenced above, mentions Smokey Joe's in a paragraph, but it seems little more than incidental.  Are there any that go into even a little depth?--I am One of Many (talk) 20:16, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.