Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smothered


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 11:35, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Smothered

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Delete - no independent reliable sources indicate that this individual episode of this individual series has any notability separate from the series. As the information at the GA Law & Order: Criminal Intent (season 1) is more comprehensive and since "Smothered" is an unlikely search term for anyone seeking that article, there is nothing to merge and no need for a redirect. See previous discussions here and here for other episodes of this series, which resulted in deletion for lack of reliable sources. Otto4711 (talk) 15:01, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with Otto on this one (good to see you, by the way, one of the first Wikipedians I talked to when I came here in '07). This one dates from the TV Guide days of 2005, when we had lots of biographies of TV characters and plot summaries of TV episodes, before people realized that fictional people and events weren't being held to the same standard as real people and historical events.  I'm sure there's an LAO Wikia out there somewhere. Doink-doink! Mandsford 15:59, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed there is. Otto4711 (talk) 21:28, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  — Cliff smith  talk  16:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. Since other episodes exists, someone has to go through all those. Christopher Connor (talk) 20:56, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That doesn't need to happen for purposes of this nomination, but I am reviewing the other episode articles and if they seem non-notable I do plan to AFD them. Otto4711 (talk) 23:36, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  01:04, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

* Keep, prefer Merge All - This article and all the others seem extravagantly detailed yet individually unnotable (disclaimer: I haven't looked through them all). "Smothered" and the others I've looked at certainly don't merit encyclopedic entries under their episode names, but their information should be kept: it seems to have been collated over a long period of time and includes many wikilinked writers, directors, etc. (and many more who may someday be). Yes, "Smothered" could indeed be deleted based purely on notability, but in the interest of maintaining the integrity of a body of (presumably) valuable data that Wikipedians have put together, I would say we shouldn't delete just one piece of what is clearly a structural whole. Unfortunately the List of Law & Order: Criminal Intent episodes is way too big & unwieldy already to absorb all these pages, so a Merge vote is not viable. I would suggest that new pages, like List of Law & Order: Criminal Intent episodes (Season 1) and so on, be created and then all these articles could be merged into their respective homes. For the record, I have no interest in such a project myself (or the TV show for that matter!) but if anyone were to take on the task, I would fully support deletion of all the pages by means of merger. I will watch this page and gladly change my vote. SteveStrummer (talk) 06:56, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There is nothing in this article that needs to be merged anywhere, as none of it is referenced and the episode is covered in sufficient detail in Law & Order: Criminal Intent (season 1), the GA-class article linked to in the nominating statement, which includes links to all of the relevant personnel. That someone has written plot summary articles for every episode of this series with no regard for whether individual episodes are independently notable is not a valid reason for keeping this article. There is no "structural whole" here as two episode articles from this season have already been deleted because they are not notable. Otto4711 (talk) 09:23, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Change to Delete - Sorry! If only I'd left out the word "episodes" when I made my dummy page name, I would have seen these Season pages. You're right, the information all belongs in there (and seems like it already is). I'll support all other nominations on this topic. SteveStrummer (talk) 09:50, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.