Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sneaky Lying Cheating Giant Ninja Koopas


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 17:11, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Sneaky Lying Cheating Giant Ninja Koopas
The article is entirely unreferenced, and is comprised entirely of a plot summary of a non-notable episode of an implicitly referenced television show whose existence has not been established. John254 02:55, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete unless the show can be demonstrated to exist and be notable, in which case this article should be merged into it at present. BigHaz 03:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete no context. Danny Lilithborne 03:49, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong delete from a vandal Nick Catalano contrib talk 04:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * To be fair to the user who created it, the vandalism warnings are only related to removal of the AfD tag from this particular article, rather than anything more system-wide. Not that it excuses removing the tag three times or so, just that it puts a slightly different spin on the events. BigHaz 05:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete —  as per BigHaz Betacommand 05:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Speedy delete as nonsense or no context, especially with creator's removal of AfD notice. Morgan Wick 01:27, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - We Wikipedians can create articles on whatever we want; this article just needs some cleanup, that's all. And the show does exist. Some of the episodes are on YouTube. --Plainnym 13:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - stop me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the general practice to have an article on the show before an article on the individual episodes? BigHaz 22:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep - This article is linked from Super_Mario_Bros._television_series. This appears to be an episode of Captain N and the Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3. I watched that show when I was a child so I know it exists. Wikipedia already has several articles on television articles, so it appears that a television episode is a notable topic for wikipedia. There has already been some debate about the notability of television episodes at Centralized_discussion/Television_episodes. That page states: "First, create an article on the television show. Once there's enough independently verifiable information to do so, create articles on each season, or some other logical division, of the show. Once there's enough independently verifiable information included about individual episodes, spin the information from episodes out into their own articles." If the article is too short, it might be a good idea to merge all the episodes of a season into one article. Also, one episode of this show consisted of a 15 minute "mini-episode" of Super Mario Bros., 30 minutes of Captain N, then another 15 minutes of Mario Bros. Thus, I think that if each episode has its own article, it might be better for the two "mini-episodes" that were aired as part of a bigger episode to share an article. In regard to the article needing references: shouldn't the episode itself count as a reference? Q0 04:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOT for plot summaries. ~ trialsanderrors 08:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.